@wingoAndy Wingo same, but i feel it's worth noting that early programmers were doing science with the hardware available heh
and that agentic stuff is more pseudo science: "here's how i operate a deeply stochastic process: i have convinced myself it understands language on a semantic level"
@wingoAndy Wingo see also: people are using "lines of code written" as a measure of progress
it does the first 70% for you etc
when you're actually writing the code, lines of code is a reasonable proxy for "how well you understand the problem and the solution"
but that isn't true when you outsource or delegate the work
you don't know what's done, what's missing, what's working, or what might be tricky
your actual progress is closer to zero even if you have a lot of code generated
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