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Does anybody have a connection at Signal who could receive some urgent app design feedback? The app has several very specific problems / limitations / design quirks that are causing major headaches for neighbor groups trying to communicate here in Minneapolis.

(Iโ€™ll eventually try to write up some feedback through normal channels so it can go through the normal user feedback pipeline โ€” but Iโ€™m sure any fixes that arrive that way will arrive far too late to be useful to us, so Iโ€™m not even bothering now. If thereโ€™s any chance of having some issues prioritized, Iโ€™d sure appreciate it.)

[ETA: I already tagged Mer__edith, but Iโ€™m sure sheโ€™s far too busy and her mentions are far too crowded for her to give this attention]

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๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์ด ์ง€๋‚œ 2024๋…„ 11์›” ๋‚จํ•™์ƒ ์ž…ํ•™์— ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ต๋‚ด์—์„œ ์‹œ์œ„๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ์ธ ์„ฑ์‹ ์—ฌ๋Œ€ ํ•™์ƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•์ œ์ˆ˜์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„œ์šธ ์„ฑ๋ถ๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ์„œ๋Š” 15์ผ ์„ฑ์‹ ์—ฌ๋Œ€ ์žฌํ•™์ƒ ์žํƒ ๋“ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์••์ˆ˜์ˆ˜์ƒ‰์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฐํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๊ฒฝ์ฐฐ, โ€˜๋‚จ์„ฑ ์ž…ํ•™ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€โ€™ ๋ž˜์ปค์น  ์‹œ์œ„ ์„ฑ์‹ ์—ฌ๋Œ€ ํ•™์ƒ ...

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ใ‚ณใƒญใƒŠๅ…จ็››ๆœŸใฎใจใใซPCใ‚‚ไฝ•ใ‚‚ๆŒใŸใšใซๅœจๅฎ…ๅ‹คๅ‹™ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใŸๅ…ˆ่ผฉใฎใ“ใจใ‚’ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ—ใฆโ€‹:kusa2:โ€‹ใฃใฆใชใฃใฆใ‚‹
ใใ‚ŒใฏใŸใ ไป•ไบ‹ใซๆ€ใ„ใ‚’้ฆณใ›ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใ ใ‚

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First of the year, DSF member of the month is Omar Abou Mrad! โญ

Omar is a helper in the Django Discord server. He is part of the Discord Staff Team ๐Ÿค

Learn more about Omar here!
djangoproject.com/weblog/2026/


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Several of you have asked for something you can do to help Minneapolis. I have something concrete:

Here is a fundraiser for families at Seward Montessori, a Minneapolis public elementary school. Many families in the neighborhood are sheltering at home, and unable to work and/or get groceries. Parents at the school have organized this fundraiser to help out.

I know the graphic is a bit generic and doesnโ€™t say much, but donโ€™t worry: I can vouch for this fundraiser. Itโ€™s vetted, and itโ€™s needed.

givebutter.com/famshelpingfams

A flyer image: โ€œPlease Support Our School Families. Please support families in Minneapolis with rent, groceries and other essential needs.โ€
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๊ทผ๋ฐ ๊ตํ™ฉ์ด "ํž˜๋“ค๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋„ ๋“œ๋ ธ๋”๋‹ˆ ํ•˜๋А๋‹˜์ด ๊ตํ™ฉ ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•˜๊ณ  ํ‘น ์‰ฌ๋ž˜์š”" ํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด์บ„? ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๋ชป ์‰ผ? ํ•˜๋А๋‹˜์ด ๊ทธ๋งŒํ•˜๋žฌ๋Š”๋ฐ๋„?

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โ€œ์‹ผ๊ฐ’์— ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ ํ•™์Šตํ•˜์žโ€๋Š” ์ •๋ถ€โ€ฆ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ ๋‹จ์ฒด โ€œ์ •๋‹นํ•œ ๋ณด์ƒ์€ ๋‹น์—ฐโ€ n.news.naver.com/mnews/articl... ์ •๋ถ€์™€ ์‚ฐ์—…๊ณ„๋Š” ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ ํ•™์Šต์— ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด์ƒ์€ ์ €๋ ดํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ฃผ์žฅํ–ˆ๋‹ค. โ€œ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ์ด ํ•™์Šตํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ถŒ์˜ ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ถŒ์˜ ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ์„ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋™์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆœ ์—†๋‹คโ€ ๋ฏธ์นœ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค. ์ง€๋“ค ํŠนํ—ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฝ”๋“œ๋„ ๋‹ค ๊นŒ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผํ• ํ…๋ฐ.

โ€œ์‹ผ๊ฐ’์— ์ธ๊ณต์ง€๋Šฅ ํ•™์Šตํ•˜์žโ€๋Š” ์ •๋ถ€โ€ฆ์ €์ž‘๊ถŒ ๋‹จ์ฒด โ€œ์ •๋‹น...

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๋ฐฐ์šฐ ์•ˆ์„ฑ๊ธฐ๋‹˜์ด ์•„๋“ค๊ฒŒ ๋‚จ๊ฒผ๋˜ ํŽธ์ง€
#์•ˆ์„ฑ๊ธฐ

(๋ฐฐ์šฐ ์•ˆ์„ฑ๊ธฐ๋‹˜์ด ์•„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚จ๊ฒผ๋˜ ํŽธ์ง€)

๋‹ค๋นˆ์•„, ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์ฒ˜์Œ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜๋˜ ๋‚  ์•„๋น ๋ฅผ ๊ผญ ๋นผ์–ด ๋‹ฎ์€ ์•„๋น  ์ฃผ๋จน๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ์ž‘์€ ๋„ˆ์˜ ์–ผ๊ตด์„ ์ฒ˜์Œ ๋ณด๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ์•„๋น ์˜ ๋ˆˆ์€ ์–ด๋А์ƒˆ ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ์ด ๊ธ€์ฝ๊ฑฐ๋ ธ์ง€.

๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ฒŒ์จ ์ด๋งŒํผ ์ปค์„œ ์˜์ “ํ•ด์ง„ ๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์•„๋น ๋Š” ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์— ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†๊ตฌ๋‚˜.

๋‹ค๋นˆ์•„, ๋‹ค๋นˆ์ด๋Š” ์ด๋‹ค์Œ์— ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์•„๋น ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋นˆ์ด๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฒธ์†ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ •์งํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋‚จ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•  ์ค„ ์•„๋Š” ๋„“์€ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉด ํ•œ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ผ์—๋Š” ์ตœ์„ ์„ ๋‹คํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ผญ ์ง€ํ‚ฌ ์ค„ ์•Œ๋ฉฐ ์‹คํŒจ๋‚˜ ์Šฌํ””์„ ๋งˆ์Œ์˜ ํ‰ํ™”๋กœ ๋‹ค์Šค๋ฆด ์ค„ ์•„๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋ผ.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ์•ผ๋ง๊ณผ ์šฉ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค.

์–ด๋–ค ์–ด๋ ค์›€ ์•ž์—์„œ๋„ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์žƒ์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ , ๋์—†์ด ๋„์ „ํ•ด ๋ณด์•„๋ผ. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ ๊ธธ์ด ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค.

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ˆ์˜ ๋™์ƒ ํ•„๋ฆฝ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ , ๋™์ƒ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ธฐ๋„ํ•  ์ค„ ์•„๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ˜•์ด ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋ผ.

๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค ๋‹ค๋นˆ์•„, ์ด ์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ์ฐธ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ž€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ฐฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ž€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ง์•„๋ผ.

1993๋…„ 11์›” ์•„๋น ๊ฐ€.

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์ฃผ์•„์ด์Šฌ๋žœ๋“œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ๋Œ€์‚ฌ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด์Šฌ๋ž€๋“œ๊ฐ€ 52๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋†๋‹ด์ด๋ž์‹œ๊ณ  ํ•จ. 2400๋ช…์ด ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋Œ€์‚ฌ ์Šน์ธ ๊ฑฐ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ด‰๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ์—ฐํŒ์žฅ์— ์„œ๋ช….

RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:fxl27llozeryg5tevagbsal2/post/3mcfxi4bxyk24

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่ฆ‹ๅˆฐๆœ‰ๅ•ฒไบบ็”จๆญปๅ’—ๅนพๅคšไบบๅšŸๅฐ‡ๅ””ๅŒๅœฐๆ–นๅๆŠ—ๆšดๆ”ฟๅ˜…ไบบๆฐ‘ๅˆ†็ญ‰็ดš๏ผŒๆˆ‘็œŸไฟ‚่ฆบๅพ—ๅฅฝๅ˜”ๅฟƒใ€‚

็„กไบบไฟ‚็‚บๅ’—ๆญป่€ŒไธŠ่ก—๏ผŒไฝขๅœฐไฟ‚ๆƒณๆดปๅพ—ๆ›ดๅฅฝๅ…ˆๅๆŠ—ใ€‚ๆญปๅ’—ๅ—ฐ็ญๅ…ถๅฏฆ้ƒฝๅ””ๆƒณๆญป๏ผŒๆดปๅˆฐ่ฝๅšŸไบฆ้ƒฝๅ””ไฟ‚็„กๅ‹‡ๆฐฃๅ˜…ๆ‡ฆๅคซใ€‚

ๆƒณๆดปไธ‹ๅŽปไฟ‚ไบบๅ˜…ๆœฌ่ƒฝๅšŸ๏ผŒ้ปžๅฏไปฅ็”จๅ‘ข็จฎ็†็”ฑๅŽปๆŒ‡่ฒฌไบบ๏ผŒ็œŸไฟ‚็—ด็ญ‹ใ€‚

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ใ€ŒBandcampใฏAI้Ÿณๆฅฝใซๅๅฏพใ—ใ€ใƒ—ใƒฉใƒƒใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใใ‚Œใ‚’็ฆๆญขใ™ใ‚‹็ซ‹ๅ ดใ‚’ๅ–ใฃใŸใ€‚ ใ€๏ผš

ใ€Œ้Ÿณๆฅฝ้…ไฟกใƒ—ใƒฉใƒƒใƒˆใƒ•ใ‚ฉใƒผใƒ  ใ€ŒBandcampใ€ ใฏ็ซๆ›œๆ—ฅใฎRedditใธใฎๆŠ•็จฟใงใ€AI็”Ÿๆˆใฎ้Ÿณๆฅฝใจ้Ÿณๅฃฐใ‚’็ฆๆญขใ™ใ‚‹ใจ็™บ่กจใ—ใŸใ€‚

ใ€ŒใƒŸใƒฅใƒผใ‚ธใ‚ทใƒฃใƒณใซใฏ้Ÿณๆฅฝใ‚’ไฝœใ‚Š็ถšใ‘ใฆใปใ—ใ„ใ—ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚กใƒณใซใฏใƒใƒณใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ใง่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใŸ้ŸณๆฅฝใŒไบบ้–“ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆไฝœใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจ่‡ชไฟกใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใปใ—ใ„ใ€ใจๅŒ็คพใฏ่ฟฐในใŸใ€‚

Bandcampใฎๆ–ฐใ—ใ„ใ‚ฌใ‚คใƒ‰ใƒฉใ‚คใƒณใงใฏใ€ใ€ŒAIใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆๅ…จ้ƒจใพใŸใฏๅคง้ƒจๅˆ†ใŒใ€็”Ÿๆˆใ•ใ‚ŒใŸ้Ÿณๆฅฝใ‚„้Ÿณๅฃฐใฏ่จฑๅฏใ•ใ‚Œใšใ€ไป–ใฎใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚„ใ‚นใ‚ฟใ‚คใƒซใ‚’ๅฝ่ฃ…ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎAIใƒ„ใƒผใƒซใฎไฝฟ็”จใ‚‚่จฑๅฏใ•ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจ่ฆๅฎšใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€‚

ใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ใ‚‚ใ—ใƒ‰ใƒฌใ‚คใ‚ฏใŒ ใ€ŒTaylor Made Freestyleใ€ใ‚’ Bandcampใงใƒชใƒชใƒผใ‚นใ—ใฆใ„ใŸใ‚‰ใ€ๅ•้กŒใ‚’ๆŠฑใˆใฆใ„ใŸใ ใ‚ใ†๏ผˆใใ—ใฆใใ‚Œใฏ ๅฝผ่‡ช่บซใฎๅˆฉ็›Šใซ ใชใฃใŸใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„๏ผ‰ใ€‚ ใ€

techcrunch.com/2026/01/14/band

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"It's a state in which people of color are not the numerical majority, but they have profound and important positions of leadership in city, state, federal government, in the business community. They're thriving. And that's true, both people of color who are immigrants and Native Americans, very, very strong and powerful force. And you the white nationalist narrative can't have that.:


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"Why Minnesota? Yes, of course, the horrific murder of George Floyd. Yes, of course, the horrific murder of Renee Good and the fact that both of those vile incidents were caught on camera and it was absolutely visceral. But it's also, from my point of view, that Minnesota represents the ultimate repudiation of the white nationalist narrative."

~ Anat Shenker-Osorio


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weekendreading.net/p/the-bigge

"It's a state in which people of color are not the numerical majority, but they have profound and important positions of leadership in city, state, federal government, in the business community. They're thriving. And that's true, both people of color who are immigrants and Native Americans, very, very strong and powerful force. And you the white nationalist narrative can't have that.:


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"Why Minnesota? Yes, of course, the horrific murder of George Floyd. Yes, of course, the horrific murder of Renee Good and the fact that both of those vile incidents were caught on camera and it was absolutely visceral. But it's also, from my point of view, that Minnesota represents the ultimate repudiation of the white nationalist narrative."

~ Anat Shenker-Osorio


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weekendreading.net/p/the-bigge

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ใ€Œใ‚ฆใ‚ฃใ‚ญใƒšใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ข25ๅ‘จๅนดใŠใ‚ใงใจใ†ใ”ใ–ใ„ใพใ™ ๏ผ ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‚

Wikipedia ใจ OpenStreetMap ใฏใ€ไธ–็•Œใ‚’ใ‚ˆใ‚Š่‰ฏใ„ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใซใ€็„กๆ–™ใฎใ‚ณใƒณใƒ†ใƒณใƒ„ใ‚’ๆง‹็ฏ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณ ใƒ—ใƒญใ‚ธใ‚งใ‚ฏใƒˆใŠใ‚ˆใณใ‚ชใƒผใƒ—ใƒณ ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใงใ™ ใ€‚โ˜บ๏ธ โ˜บ๏ธ ใ€๏ผš

en.osm.town/@openstreetmap/115

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์ง‘์— ์˜ค๋‹ˆ ๊ฐ€์•ผ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆˆ์น˜๋ฅผ ๊นŒ๊ณ  ์นจ๋Œ€ ๋ฐ‘์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ์ผ๋‹จ ์•ฝ ์ค€๋น„ํ•ด ๋‘๊ณ  ๊ฒœํ•˜๋Š”์ฒ™ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋Œ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์™”์„๋•Œ ๋‚š์•„์ฑ„์„œ ์•ฝ ๋จน์ด๊ณ  ์ข€ ํ’€์–ด๋†จ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ์‹ฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ƒค์›Œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์„  ๋–จ๋ฉด์„œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ ์—†๋Š”์ฒ™ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ฃผ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ ์…‹ํŒ… ํ•ด๋†จ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์•ผ ๋‚˜์˜ค์ž ๋งˆ์ž ๋‚š์•„์ฑ„์„œ ๋„ฅ์นด๋ผ ์”Œ์šฐ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์‚ฌ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋†“๊ธฐ 50๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ๋„ฃ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด์„œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ข€ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š”๋ฐ ์”Œ๋‹ด์“ฐ๋‹ด ์–ด๋ฅด๊ณ  ๋‹ฌ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์‚ฌ๋†“๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ ค์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋„ฅ์นด๋ผ ๋นผ์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋„๋ง๊ฐ€์„œ ๋˜ ๋นผ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ•œ์ฐธ ๊ฑธ๋ฆผ..ใ…‹ใ…‹ ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์ ์  ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด ใ…Žใ…Ž

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่ทฏ้Žไธ€ๅฎถๅปฃๅ‘Šๅ…ฌๅธ๏ผŒ็œ‹ไป–ๅ€‘็š„ๅปฃๅ‘Šๆ‹›็‰Œ๏ผŒ่ชชไธๅฎš่€้—†ๆœƒๆ”ถ่—่‘—ๅพˆๅคš่ก—้“่€็…ง็‰‡ใ€‚ๆœ‰ๆฉŸๆœƒไพ†ๆŽข่จชไธ€ไธ‹ใ€‚

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RE: mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris/1

This morning Chris Alemany has a poll up asking when you think will shut the door on free flowing expression either by being bought by billionaires or catering to their crypto VC owners.

This should be a real concern. We are headed to a crucial mid-term election. Should this pivot happen this summer it will cripple Democratic campaigns at a consequential moment.

We need to be smarter than this. Pack your social media 'go bag'. Start building a Fediverse presence before it's too late.

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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํญ๋ ฅ์€ ์•ˆ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ „์Ÿ์€ ์ œ์ผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•œ๋‹ค.

RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:e734gcprcgyjugab2h74g5su/post/3mchklhdn2s27

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RE: mastodon.social/@ikuturso/1157

ใฎๆœˆ้–“ใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ–ใƒฆใƒผใ‚ถใƒผใŒๆธ›ๅฐ‘ใ‚’็ถšใ‘ใฆใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†่ฉฑใ€‚
ใใ‚Œใง่จ€ใ†ใจ :fediverse: ใ‚‚ใŠใ‚“ใชใ˜ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใฎใ‹ใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉ๏ผˆใŸใ ใฎไฝ“ๆ„Ÿใงๆ นๆ‹ ใฏใชใ„๏ผ‰ใฉใ†ใชใ‚“ใ ใ‚ใ† :tony_astonished:

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ๆฒ’ๆƒณๅˆฐไธญๅœ‹็š„App Store็ฌฌไธ€ๅไธ‹่ผ‰็š„ไป˜่ฒปApp(ไบบๆฐ‘ๅนฃ8ๅ…ƒ)ๅซๅš"ๆญปไบ†ๅ—Ž" ๏ผŒ็ขบ่ช็จๅฑ…่€…ๆ˜ฏๅฆ้‚„ๆดป่‘—็š„App๏ผŒๅฆ‚ๆžœ้€ฃ็บŒๅ…ฉๅคฉๆฒ’ๆœ‰"check inโ€œ๏ผŒAppๅฐฑๆœƒ่‡ชๅ‹•ๅ ฑๆกˆ็”š่‡ณๆ–ผ่‡ชๅ‹•่ฏ็ตกๅ–ช่‘ฌๆฅญ่€…ไพ†่™•็†้บ้ซ”ใ€‚

bnext.com.tw/article/89759/ali

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