What is Hackers' Pub?

Hackers' Pub is a place for software engineers to share their knowledge and experience with each other. It's also an ActivityPub-enabled social network, so you can follow your favorite hackers in the fediverse and get their latest posts in your feed.

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@JoBlakelyJo-stands on guard, elbows up. @Em0nM4stodonEm :official_verified:

Proton didn't promise anonymity or secrecy, which is the issue here. Sure, they could offer an entire course on individual opsec when you sign up, provide a detailed description of the difference between secrecy, privacy, anonymity, and security. Those resources are available already and...few use them, including activists who most need them.

I think anyone who has ever tried to explain this field (in which I am a hobbyist at best) to a newbie will understand how quickly people's eyes glaze over. It's like how quickly people bounce from Mastodon when asked to choose a server or the resistance to getting friends to ditch WhatsApp for Signal.

All that said, any other privacy-forward email service faces the same challenge and that is what was bothering me here. I've seen people bragging about dumping Proton for [other service], not realizing that [other service] will do exactly the same thing.

= missed learning opportunity.

@JoBlakelyJo-stands on guard, elbows up. @Em0nM4stodonEm :official_verified:

Cross-post...

Again, I want to reiterate that the real lesson here is that people, especially those at risk due to their activism, need to learn basic opsec skills so they understand how to assess risk vs functionality. As an activist that is always a major tradeoff.

This needs to be an opportunity for people to broadly learn the potential failure points of email communications, not to focus on Proton and what they did/didn't/should do.

Reviewing any email provider's interface and security options is a separate topic.

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@drahardjaDave Rahardja @lcamtuflcamtuf :verified: :verified: :verified: It cannot violate the license. The license is tied to a specific copyrighted work. If you want a masters course on this look up the Oracle v. Google case where Oracle claimed the Java License forbade you from making work alike software (according to the US courts it cannot do that). This is similar to 'clean rooms' where one person tells another what the software should do and they write it from scratch to do that. 1/2

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Need help folks! Planning to move to a new instance, want my posts, reposts, favorites, bookmarks either as a read-only archive or exported to my new instance. Can blind-first apps like Fedra @TheQuinboxQuin or FastSM @MewProjects allow a full buffer export if I load everything into them? Or @FediTips Is there an unofficial way to export or bring it all to a new instance? Any suggestions much appreciated!

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RE: infosec.exchange/@catsalad/116

normalize making custom licenses, they make corporate lawyers nervous

there's seemingly a funny side effect for this one btw:

> 2. No part of a work under this license may be used or reproduced in any manner by organizations or businesses with more than fifty (50) employees.
> The Filthy Human Hands License is licensed under the Filthy Human Hands License.

so any org with >50 employees can't even copy the license without immediately needing fair use exceptions or equivalent

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2026년 3·8 세계여성의 날🥖🌹을 맞아 민우회는 '기꺼이 불편해지기 캠페인’을 진행하고 있습니다. 신자유주의에 저항하는 페미니스트 실천으로 주목하는 장면에 스티커를 붙여주셨고, 설문조사 QR코드도 휴대폰에 담아가고 계시는데요. ‘페미니스트 만사형통’ 부적 스티커도 너무 근사하죠?😆 올해 가장 주목하는 장면과 이를 바꾸기 위한 실천을 나누는 설문조사 QR코드도 궁금하신가요? nuli.do/vsjc

2026년 3·8 세계여성의 날🥖🌹을 맞아 민우회는 '기꺼이 불편해지기 캠페인’을 진행하고 있습니다. 이에 캠페인에 참여하는 시민들이 "새벽 배송 멈추는 페미니스트" 피켓을 들고 사진을 찍고 있습니다.2026년 3·8 세계여성의 날🥖🌹을 맞아 민우회는 '기꺼이 불편해지기 캠페인’을 진행하고 있습니다. 이에 캠페인에 참여하는 시민들이 "차별금지법 제정하는 페미니스트" 피켓을 들고 사진을 찍고 있습니다.2026년 3·8 세계여성의 날🥖🌹을 맞아 민우회는 '기꺼이 불편해지기 캠페인’을 진행하고 있습니다. 이에 캠페인에 참여하는 시민들이 "투기 노노 투쟁 예스 페미니스트" 피켓을 들고 사진을 찍고 있습니다.2026년 3·8 세계여성의 날🥖🌹을 맞아 민우회는 '기꺼이 불편해지기 캠페인’을 진행하고 있습니다. 이에 캠페인에 참여하는 시민들이 "더 넓게 연대하는 페미니스트" 피켓을 들고 사진을 찍고 있습니다.
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RE: infosec.exchange/@catsalad/116

normalize making custom licenses, they make corporate lawyers nervous

there's seemingly a funny side effect for this one btw:

> 2. No part of a work under this license may be used or reproduced in any manner by organizations or businesses with more than fifty (50) employees.
> The Filthy Human Hands License is licensed under the Filthy Human Hands License.

so any org with >50 employees can't even copy the license without immediately needing fair use exceptions or equivalent

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@MikalMy camera shoots fascists @Em0nM4stodonEm :official_verified:

Not everyone is an infosec expert or has one to assess a website or know all the details. Proton promised privacy. So if there are risks to that privacy using their interface (ie. using a credit card) there should be a notification how that option could affect their privacy, how & why.

They should and could communicate best practices so people can make informed choices on their platform with their offering.

@JoBlakelyJo-stands on guard, elbows up. @Em0nM4stodonEm :official_verified:

Proton didn't promise anonymity or secrecy, which is the issue here. Sure, they could offer an entire course on individual opsec when you sign up, provide a detailed description of the difference between secrecy, privacy, anonymity, and security. Those resources are available already and...few use them, including activists who most need them.

I think anyone who has ever tried to explain this field (in which I am a hobbyist at best) to a newbie will understand how quickly people's eyes glaze over. It's like how quickly people bounce from Mastodon when asked to choose a server or the resistance to getting friends to ditch WhatsApp for Signal.

All that said, any other privacy-forward email service faces the same challenge and that is what was bothering me here. I've seen people bragging about dumping Proton for [other service], not realizing that [other service] will do exactly the same thing.

= missed learning opportunity.

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