@daliasCassandrich @juliette I certainly wouldn't say I see a lot of "Pro safe-streets" discussion from the people who push to ban the internet for children. Or "Build more parks". Or "Open more child-friendly stores". Or even "Build denser housing so kids are closer to other kids". Or even "More libraries! Safe routes to school!"

You know, conversations that would emphasize opportunities to socialize in person.

It's just "Remove them from the internet"... and it's like "And let them go WHERE?!" Because ultimately, I know there is no "where". Not the streets, the parks, the library, the internet...

The goal seems ultimately for the children to not exist

And that makes a lot of sense when you consider that change often comes from the youth... but that makes it less okay, not more okay. If you want to keep kids from organizing to create a new movement, you can just... keep them from meeting. It's the same isolation we are used to today just... more!