@SnoopJ @jonnyjonny (good kind) @MeyerwebEric A. Meyer experiencing the bad old days definitely helps, but the fundamental thing is "do you understand the problem domain". I am frequently annoyed by CSS due to its *inherent* complexity, but I don't just remember Netscape Navigator 3, I remember FrameMaker. I remember Quartz Xpress. Even if you've seen other *good* solutions, CSS is still kind of a miracle, and anyone who thinks it's "bloated" just doesn't appreciate the complexity of the challenge it is addressing.

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