I don't know what it would take (maybe just being shipped off to Mars is the answer?) I say this mean thing because I do suspect that some of them KNOW they aren't as liberal as they like to pretend they are.
But the fact that so many people do not realize -still- in 2025 that they discount women, or that misogyny is a HUGE red flag for ummmm…how do I put this: being a shitty human who shouldn't be trusted…. is a pretty dismaying part of this entire millennium so far.