yes, if we're looking at mastodon and the model it has created that all microblogging apps have copied, then community doesn't really exist in the technical parts but must be artificially built up. The more interesting example is the threadiverse where communities are literal spaces: people congregate towards one or any number, they are independent from your server and from your identity. This, to me, feels closer to how communities start to create: pick an obvious topic, make obvious-y rules about what is on-topic or not to guide what people can talk about, then possibly graduate from there to another form (maybe a specific, closed community with your people). I do think more visibility should be given to the threadiverse rather than microblogging, or even mastodon, because of all the problems you have listed. And the future direction of AP should definitely split the server from the usage and build apps on the client only !
yes, if we're looking at mastodon and the model it has created that all microblogging apps have copied, then community doesn't really exist in the technical parts but must be artificially built up. The more interesting example is the threadiverse where communities are literal spaces: people congregate towards one or any number, they are independent from your server and from your identity. This, to me, feels closer to how communities start to create: pick an obvious topic, make obvious-y rules about what is on-topic or not to guide what people can talk about, then possibly graduate from there to another form (maybe a specific, closed community with your people). I do think more visibility should be given to the threadiverse rather than microblogging, or even mastodon, because of all the problems you have listed. And the future direction of AP should definitely split the server from the usage and build apps on the client only !
@rakoo@blah.rako.space completely right.
The "community" aspect on microblog UI is shallow at best. Instance names and domains are signalling community, but you're still screaming into a public town square about anything and everything.
Threadiverse absolutely does it better, but the crossover between it and the wider fediverse is minimal at best (I am posting on NodeBB right now.)
I'm going to be talking about this next week at FediMTL!
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