@mikeMike Fraser :Jets: :flag: This is untrue. There are a number of independent apps across various verticals. Blogging: leaflet, pckt, offprint; Streaming: stream.place; Short-form video: spark; Git: tangled; and so many more, and none of them are directly dependent on Bluesky whatsoever.

This doesn't even count the microblogging competitors coming up that are full-stack independent of Bsky as well (Blacksky, Northsky, Gander, Eurosky etc.)

@mastodonmigration @mmasnickMike Masnick ✅

@quillmatiqAnuj Ahooja @mikeMike Fraser :Jets: :flag: @mmasnickMike Masnick ✅

Feel like whenever this discussion is joined people start talking past each other.

It may be the case that the ATmosphere can be decentralized. And there may be small scale projects which test this potentiality. But the fact remains that it remains highly centralized.

Rob Ricci @ricciRob Ricci has developed a metric to address this matter

arewedecentralizedyet.online/

The purpose is not to dump on , but rather to establish meaningful context for these discussions.

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RE: mastodon.online/@mastodonmigra

Exactly. Pointing out that isn't *practically* decentralized yet is not a critique, it's a statement of the work they need to do. (and I wish them luck!)

Mastodon has its own demons to slay. No one is perfect here! We're just talking about how things should improve. I so don't want us to form a circular firing squad. We can all win.

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