I think some people have a problem reasoning with numbers. When a field is 80-90% male and we can compare its segregation to other similar fields it is now demonstrated that something is going on with gender and a field. Well explored and documented across the literature. This is not something I need to prove and I'm not going to waste my time defending this position when I could instead be spending my time working on the next steps around what helps shift this kind of problem.
@grimalkinaCat Hicks I've had too many conversations where pointing out that nearly half of women STEM grads have left those fields after a decade earns me a stock "well, we need to train more women for STEM careers then" and ... I'm like, my friend, my brother, you call yourself an engineer but I say "half of X falls unaccountably out the side of process Y after Z time", and your answer is "we need to shove more X in the front end?" If you said this in a meeting about making cat toys you'd be fired.
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