"This is part and parcel of historically what white Christian nationalism has always been willing to do, is resort to the most brutal, terroristic acts of violence. … People are, 'Oh you know Christian nationalism is new, 'and [I'm] like, 'Well, no, it's not new at all. I mean we have new iterations of it in our in our day that are really important to pay attention to but I I always use the KKK as an example of a Christian nationalist group.'"
Kristn Du Mez points to what Dias and Graham say in their interview as they note that "Christian nationalism" "was a term invented by scholars and they just do their reporting on American religion these days without touching that term."
Robert P. Jones responds:
"That's the most ridiculous thing ever. … So, you're going to be a science reporter and you're going to write about human genetics without using the terms DNA, right?"
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