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@raphaelRaphael Lullis @silverpill @julian @mariusormarius

I agree. Aboveall we need to know where protocol ends and 'app' begins. Be generally more deliberate in terminology use, and no longer talk in overloaded terms that have different unclear meanings to different people in different settings (to avoid using 'contexts' one of such overloaded words)

I've noticed for instance people having a very different notion of what a 'generic server' is, in definitions that are almost diametrical opposites.

My definition of generic is 'not specific' i.e. a generic server is a pure protocol implementation (which is something to agree upon, what that exactly entails), having no knowledge of *any* app / solution built on top of it or 'passing through' its messaging architecture.

In the other meaning a generic server 'knows/does/has it all' i.e. it understands everything we comprise to be 'the fediverse' in a kind of hard-wired fashion based on the functionalities that (marginally) interoperate today.

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@raphaelRaphael Lullis @julian @mariusormarius

Another example of the need for careful terminology use is in the post that @silverpill quoted above:

> prevent actors on the same server from deleting each other posts

"post"? There is no post in , not as a verb and neither as a noun. While I am not worried that silverpill used the word in a wrong meaning here, the terminology easily leads to confusion where someone who interprets AS/AP to be equivalent to the fediverse we have today, pictures in their mind as Mastodon posts or toots in fedi slang, or elsewhere called statuses.

That is app terminology. AP only knows Actor, Activities, Objects, and perhaps Collections. Period. The rest is solution design.

Where they are transferred they can be said to be messages, and messaging happens.

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