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Today social media looks & feels like TV to me. Consume whatever each platform owners' algorithms serve.

's ecosystem seems focused on reach & broadcasting. 's ecosystem seems focused on interaction. Is this the diff between Vs ? Newschool vs Oldschool Internet?

Would be nice if these become interoperable. Technically solvable, but I wonder are the 'cultures(?)' interoperable as well? Thoughts?

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Before I drive myself mad and try to build something I'm incapable of…

Has anyone built an server for embedded devices?

Not a Raspberry Pi, but like one of those tiny ESP32 devices which can run MicroPython or similar.

I built a *full* AP server in around 64KB of PHP
gitlab.com/edent/activity-bot/

Now I'm wondering if a tiny sensor could be a fully-fledged ActivityPub node on the Fediverse.

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Fireside Fedi 76 - FediVariety Show: Public Code Curtains Up

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Right now I like the / more than / , because the author chooses which replies appear below their post. I think it would be better if there was an expectation to regularly validate the webmentions (we have HTTP caching for that), and also for instead of html. I’m not familiar with the LD markup languages, but maybe there exists something more interoperable than microformats (with proper URIs for properties).

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A good question about this is "why this and not Fedi"

Fedi is fine.

However, it is HEAVYWEIGHT infrastructure.

It's big. It's not cheap to run. Even Misskey/Sharkey/Pleroma/etc. are not cheap to run.

mastodon.social is the default instance. There is no real way around that. People want a default instance.

It is not super seamless to move instances, migration is better than it used to be but far from perfect. It means bringing all your data with you to a new server.

With this... there is no migration, ever again.

With a backend like OrbitDB, you have a distributed storage network that is basically a cockroach.

There will be no "RIP <instance>" it will just be "RIP <home page gateway>". And you can run one yourself or use someone else's. My goal is you can run this on GitHub pages or any static site.

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will be available on soon, and we hope to get more feedback to improve the project. While uses server APIs, here we can do much more to improve your experience with an server running directly on your device. We already introduced E2EE DMs and personal identity. We will go further with automatic deletion, even at posting level. You decide the availability of a message. We will also work on interaction controls from .

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@strypey

Clicked through on that @ naturzukunft2026 link for some reason

"The spec is ActivityPub, but federation is unfortunately Mastodon."

No

is a protocol

It requires some sort of implementation via software into some sort of distribution/app

Mastodon (for one) is only *one* distribution/app

There are others

These others may

--> or may not <--

"federate" with each other to varying degrees

They are all *different* and "varying" implementations of the ActivityPub protocol

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, but it sure seems to be...

cc @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

@FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @strypey

I do not think that @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft misunderstands this.

There's a difference between the protocol and the on-the-wire reality, and in the latter is the post-facto interoperability leader.

For there to be interoperabiity in a particular domain there needs to be agreement on data formats and msg exchanges, and the specs don't provide full coverage nor clear guidance on this. Though has a section on use cases it was designed to handle, they aren't fully specified.

Of course it is perfectly fine, and highly encouraged to model a domain in the best possible way, but you won't be "part of the fediverse" until you implement enough of the post-facto Mastodon microblogging interop quirks.

We don't have a good ecosystem-level extension approach, and the constitutes a best-effort. A bandaid that allows to present a best-practice in hopes it gets further adoption.

I'm not sure that JSON-LD offers solace though.

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"The Fediverse today is dominated by microblogging clones."

@naturzukunft2026naturzukunft, 2026

fediforum.org/2026-03-growing-

... because Mastodon is what people use the most (really it's the only "microblogging" app, and only by default)

"... we need domain-specific applications that leverage ActivityPub’s full semantic potential — not just status updates, but recipes, events, reviews, collaborative documents ..."

We've had most of these for years. Mobilizon, NeoDB, NextCloud, etc.

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@strypey

Clicked through on that @ naturzukunft2026 link for some reason

"The spec is ActivityPub, but federation is unfortunately Mastodon."

No

is a protocol

It requires some sort of implementation via software into some sort of distribution/app

Mastodon (for one) is only *one* distribution/app

There are others

These others may

--> or may not <--

"federate" with each other to varying degrees

They are all *different* and "varying" implementations of the ActivityPub protocol

I don't know why this is so hard to understand, but it sure seems to be...

cc @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

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@i47iR. P. Scott

There is some terminology used by @HolosSocial that may lead to confusion and needs clarification.

The term "full server" seems to refer to a full server-to-server (S2S) implementation and then hosted client-side, which communicates with the Holos relay server through websockets in order to be able to federate. You might call it a "full server on the client" implementation.

But that is different than what the spec calls a "ActivityPub conformant Federated Server" which also implements the client-to-server (C2S) Social API. I don't see C2S mentioned, and perhaps @appsFedilab Apps can improve the docs here to avoid confusions.

w3.org/TR/activitypub/#specifi

The fediverse now has a mobile-first personal server called Holos by @HolosSocial (via @appsFedilab Apps). It's a full ActivityPub server that runs on your Android device (iOS coming soon). You own your identity with a custom domain and your followers live on your device.

Project URL: holos.social

Key features:
✅ Your server on your phone – Your identity, keys, and followers live on your device, not a giant shared server.
✅ Custom domain identity – Permanently own your handle (@you@yourname.com) and take it anywhere.
✅ True E2EE for DMs – Real end-to-end encryption for private conversations, a major privacy upgrade.
✅ Relay-based connectivity – Connects to the wider fediverse via relays, so a personal server is practical on mobile.

Open source, privacy-focused, and built to give you real ownership in the fediverse. The Android version is available now.

Donations:
fedilab.app/page/donations/

Open Collective:
opencollective.com/fedilab

@i47iR. P. Scott

There is some terminology used by @HolosSocial that may lead to confusion and needs clarification.

The term "full server" seems to refer to a full server-to-server (S2S) implementation and then hosted client-side, which communicates with the Holos relay server through websockets in order to be able to federate. You might call it a "full server on the client" implementation.

But that is different than what the spec calls a "ActivityPub conformant Federated Server" which also implements the client-to-server (C2S) Social API. I don't see C2S mentioned, and perhaps @appsFedilab Apps can improve the docs here to avoid confusions.

w3.org/TR/activitypub/#specifi

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The fediverse now has a mobile-first personal server called Holos by @HolosSocial (via @appsFedilab Apps). It's a full ActivityPub server that runs on your Android device (iOS coming soon). You own your identity with a custom domain and your followers live on your device.

Project URL: holos.social

Key features:
✅ Your server on your phone – Your identity, keys, and followers live on your device, not a giant shared server.
✅ Custom domain identity – Permanently own your handle (@you@yourname.com) and take it anywhere.
✅ True E2EE for DMs – Real end-to-end encryption for private conversations, a major privacy upgrade.
✅ Relay-based connectivity – Connects to the wider fediverse via relays, so a personal server is practical on mobile.

Open source, privacy-focused, and built to give you real ownership in the fediverse. The Android version is available now.

Donations:
fedilab.app/page/donations/

Open Collective:
opencollective.com/fedilab

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In , once a post is federated, you lose control over how remote instances handle interactions on it. Some servers like are working on interaction controls, but non-compatible instances simply ignore your rules.
With , we're considering a "safe mode" available at publishing time. Your post would only be delivered to followers on instances that respect interaction controls. Not enabled by default, but there for those who need it.

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Just found out about storyden.org/ .

I joined their Discord to ask them to consider #ActivityPub support. They haven't, they don't know much about it, but I'm sure someone could help if they're interesetd.

Barney dropped a line to me though that 100% resonates with us on the #Fediverse and what they're going for.

"Knowledge gardens, not content farms."

ONE OF US! 😁

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We talk about forgetting some of you might not know this project.
is a full ActivityPub server running on your device. Currently on Android, next on iOS.
We already introduced DMs and identity through custom domains. You own your followers, your keys, and your identity. Relays are just infrastructure.
On the footer of holos.social we added pages explaining the project. Have a look!

Mastodon: @HolosSocial Don't hesitate to share

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The fediverse now has a TikTok alternative called Loops by @dansup. Open source, federated via ActivityPub, funded by NLnet and community donations instead of venture capital. You own your content and can self host. Beta is live and the iOS app just hit the App Store.

joinloops.org

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It's probably less of a problem now that the fediverse is much bigger (than it was 5 years ago). But one of the things I've heard puts newbies off alternative social apps/ networks is too much meta-discussion about development and deployment of the apps/ networks themselves.

Maybe we could agree on a standard way of tagging this stuff (eg )? Then the DevMeta tag could be filtered out by default for newbies.

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**Decentralized Dominance: The Unbribed Power of Webmentions**

I've been a vocal advocate for Webmentions for a while - and I'm here to tell you that this game-changing technology is not just a nicety, but a necessity.

The fundamentals are crystal clear: take control of your online presence, ditch the middlemen, and shatter the shackles of Big Tech's stranglehold. It's time to rewrite the rules and reclaim your digital sovereignty.

Let's cut to the chase with an example that'll leave you breathless: imagine Asuka stumbling upon a scorching article on Shinji's site at Shinji.com/article. She fires off a comment that'd make a thousand lesser bloggers green with envy - but instead of relying on some soulless commenting system, she takes it to the next level by sending a Webmention directly to Shinji's site.

The implications are staggering: when both parties support Webmentions, they're essentially saying, "You can have my comment, right now." The source URL (Asuka.com/comment) and target URL (Shinji.com/article) are etched in stone - no more third-party intermediaries, no more social media login hoops to jump through. Just the raw power of the Web.

Now, I know what you're thinking: "But isn't this just a fancy alternative to ActivityPub?" Ah, friend, you'd be wrong. Dead wrong. is a Byzantine nightmare that'll leave your head spinning with concepts like actors, relays, followers, and more. Webmentions, on the other hand, are a elegant, peer-to-peer solution that doesn't require any of that mumbo-jumbo.

And let's not forget the sheer flexibility of Microformats - you can use Webmentions to share anything from likes to RSVPs, media, locations, and even events. The possibilities are endless.

Don't be held hostage by the status quo. Join the Indieweb and take control of your online destiny once and for all.

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I'm thinking in adding proxyUrl support in the frontend. :goose_hacker:

Currently if a request to a remote object fails - either due to CORS, or because of authorized fetch - I just display a fallback link to it.

I'm wondering if I can do a two step approach, if the request to the resource fails with 401-403 (for secure fetch) or 400 (for CORS failures) I try to redirect the request through the proxyUrl mechanism.

Only if that fails too, I fallback to something else.

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Recently, there was a question by @taylorlorenz about how you explain the Fediverse to someone who doesn't use it.

And usually, what we tend to do is we talk about servers and decentralisation and federation and ActivityPub and all these highly technical concepts.

I've been thinking about it, and all that technical stuff is really impressive work by people far more clever than I'll ever be.

But for me, that technology is a facilitating thing. It's like trying to describe how a bicycle works, rather than why you ride it.

Instead, what the Fediverse is, is a place to have conversations online without algorithms, AI, and ads getting in the way.

Which is increasingly a rare thing online.

Almost the entirety of the internet, from SEO on the web to YouTube to TikTok to Spotify to Instagram and X and Facebook, has been turned into a race to game an algorithm designed to sell ads.

What makes the Fedi unique is that it's not that.

And I suspect if you're trying to persuade someone to try Mastodon (or Lemmy, or Pixelfed, or GtS, etc), you'll get a lot further explaining it as algorithm-free, ad-free, AI-free conversations, rather than trying to describe a decentralised protocol.

#Fediverse #Mastodon #ActivityPub

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I can say the is a different place than any other social media platform I have been on. I've been here since 2022. When my self-hosted instance went down for a couple days, I didn't yearn for social media like a drug. I wondered how certain people's cats were, one person had a mother in the hospital, someone was getting a new job, one had the blues, etc, etc. I missed people more than viralness of a platform. Thank you for being my Old Friends.

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There's a lot of energy on the right now to discuss/find a alternative to using .

@strypey suggested that I put this out there to anyone who's thinking about it. We could probably rebuild most of Discord's features as an inbox without doing a lot of back end code.

I'm too swamped to start on this right now. But if you're a great HTML+CSS designer, I'm able to give some time to a team who wants to take this on.

There's a lot of energy on the right now to discuss/find a alternative to using .

@strypey suggested that I put this out there to anyone who's thinking about it. We could probably rebuild most of Discord's features as an inbox without doing a lot of back end code.

I'm too swamped to start on this right now. But if you're a great HTML+CSS designer, I'm able to give some time to a team who wants to take this on.

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These days I have seed and flavorful vegetables on my mind. I'm grateful to be part of an international community with that passion. One of the places on the internet I learn the most these days is a dedicated to that topic and I wish it could federate with Mastodon and similar networks, so the conversations could take place here too. Atm you need a 500$ business plan to integrate plugin.

goingtoseed.discourse.group

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With we checked multiple criteria before indexing: "indexable" enabled, account not locked, no or in bio, not in opted-out list, only public posts. Every deletion, edit or block was processed instantly via .
Google uses that same "indexable" flag but ignores everything else, keeps deleted content cached for weeks.
We shut it down after pushback. Was that the right call? Don't hesitate to share, this concerns the whole Fediverse.

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@eyeintheskyThe Eye I am genuinely curious. What do you mean by a "real" schema language? What criteria should it meet?

More specifically, what would constitute successful interoperability for in line with the aims of ?

is not a schema language. It is used to serialise as the primary vocab for exchanging social activities, providing a foundation, and leaves room for extensibility for broad human needs to express social matters.

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This morning I promoted nolto.social, a platform that was made - at least I thought so, to be a Fediverse based alternative to LinkedIn. As I'm getting more and more annoyed by LinkedIn and all the useless posts over there, I was happy to find an independent alternative.

nolto.social still worked this morning, but when I came back later; i found the project deleted and at least when you are viewing the website from your smartphone, you see a message from the developer of nolto.social where he states that this project was never meant to grow. Obviously this was just a one person project who became overwhelmed by the success of the platform and by the fact, that companies started creating profiles and nearly 1000 people joined within a short time period. But now it seems that this project ran out of control and the maintainer decided to pull the emergency break. He is also talking about negative feedback he received for the platform and even personal harrassment.

It is sad that a promising project like this had been terminated, but I can understand what made the maintainer doing so. Managing a business platform can become a fulltime job quite fast and it also requires technical ressources and money to run these resources.

I firmly believe that we need an alternative to LinkedIn. I believe that people don't want all this bullshit posts just created to please the algorithm and to generate likes and feedback. And I believe that people would like a business network which is nothing else than a business network - no space for bursting egos and self promotion, but a space for connection and serious discussion.

Fediverse would be the ideal space for this. But as we know, if business networks are successful, they require more and more attention, more ressources, more money. And at this is the problem. When you need money to run your social network, it's tempting to ask yourself how you could generate money by using the ressources you already have, which are user data...

I don't see a solution for this now, just sharing some thoughts.

Icon of an goodbye waving Elephant, dressed in a suit holding a business suitcase. Written below is: Nolto was never meant to grow.
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Hello @evanEvan Prodromou and @bifurcationRichard Barnes .. a question.

For inclusion of information resources on the delightful-fediverse-development curated list there is this (now expired) draft exploring / versus AP. I find this draft to be well-written and informative, and thus the draft possibly a candidate for inclusion for people as additional background reading to the work on MLS. Unless there are so many changes since the creation of the draft that it may raise confusion, and should not be included. What is your opinion here?

ietf-wg-mimi.github.io/mimi-ar

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I would like to suggest that folks in who appreciate the and learn about and thank @dansup, who invented, developed & maintained @pixelfed for YEARS even while the user base was like in the few hundreds.

Now he's behind @loops and @fedidb as well

His dedication to the open web is so criminally underrated in our country, even though he has been on the global cutting edge of the movement we're seeing in for the better part of a decade.

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I'm playing around with Offer activities in Fedify. The AP Vocab provides this, easy peasy.

✅ Alice OFFERS Book to Bob
✅ Bob ACCEPTS Alice's OFFER

Or:

✅ Bob OFFERS Rotten Tomato to Alice
❌ Alice REJECTS Bob's OFFER

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But I'm not clear if this is right:

❓Alice ANNOUNCES OFFER of Labubu to Followers?

❓Bob OFFERS $10 for Labubu to Alice?

❓ Alice ACCEPTS Bob's OFFER of $10 for Labubu?

✅ Alice OFFERS Labubu to Bob

✅ Bob ACCEPTS Labubu

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