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RE: indieweb.social/@laurenshof/11

This thread talks about going back to an users's home server to validate a user's content, because you can't trust that the event you got for it is unmodified.

But you can't trust what the home server tells you the content of the message is either! There's nothing stopping a home server from serving a modified version of your content every time it's requested, say, to inject ads into it, or censor bits it doesn't like.

Or to just completely fabricate new content from you.

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One downside to Mastadon for me so far: the servers I join keep shutting down. ๐Ÿ˜•

I figure joining the main place will increase my odds of longevity! Also got going on my website, but still haven't configured after installing last year ๐Ÿ˜•

I guess I'm just usually adverse to all social no matter who runs the platforms :thaenkin:

But I'd also love to see the fruition of a truly open web, so 'be the change you wish to see'. ๐Ÿ‘‹

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8.0.0 โ€” Smash That Likeย Button

ActivityPub for WordPress @activitypub.blog@activitypub.blog

WordPress ActivityPub 8.0.0 makes your blog more interactive in the Fediverse: visitors can Like/Boost posts directly on-site, with faster repeat interactions and clearer guidance. New Fediverse block patterns/templates speed setup, a pre-publish panel suggests post formats, community snippets land in-repo, and remote media caching is rebuilt for reliability. PHP 7.4+ required.

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I'm making an ActivityPub server for distributing transit alerts ๐ŸŽ‰ The tool is completely open-source and fetches alerts from GTFS-realtime Service Alerts feeds

Official instance: transit.alerts.social
Currently works with:
@kingcountymetro
@commtrans
@soundtransit

I expect to add a lot more agencies to the instance in the near-ish futureโ€”want to validate more before going wider

GitHub: github.com/kona314/transit-fed

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Even more remarkable is the near complete absence of the developer community in mingling in the social side of the discussion.

To learn how actually *experience* this here fediverse. A which results from them tying their apps together, to hopefully get more than the sum of individual parts. By means of facilitating , technically speaking. But it involves more than getting that feature across the wire to the next app.

There's exists a clear gap between and , where the latter must serve the former to bring real solutions. Otherwise it is all apps and not much seamless social fabric to navigate. No peopleverse anywhere in sight. Just apps and users of them.

The apps see great success, and I enjoy their use a lot. But I don't see a future for the app-centric fediverse where it comes to providing mankind the future of .

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

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Moim.live Release note (v0.2.0)

Jaeyeol Lee @kodingwarrior@hackers.pub

์—ฐํ•ฉ์šฐ์ฃผ ์นœํ™”์ ์ธ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์ธ moim.live๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์ตœ์ž์˜ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ํŽธ์˜์„ฑ์„ ๋Œ€ํญ ๊ฐ•ํ™”ํ•œ v0.2.0 ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ฒ„์ „์€ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€์‹œ๋ณด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋„์ž…ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ฐธ์—ฌ์ž ํ˜„ํ™ฉ๊ณผ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ํ•œ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์žฅ์†Œ ๋‹ด๋‹น์ž๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ถŒํ•œ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์˜ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ •ํ™•์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน๊ณผ ์žฅ์†Œ๋ณ„ ์ผ์ •์„ ์ง๊ด€์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์ธํ•˜๋Š” ์บ˜๋ฆฐ๋” ๋ทฐ์™€ ์ •๋ณด ๊ตฌ๋…์„ ์œ„ํ•œ RSS ํ”ผ๋“œ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ์„ ์ƒˆ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ์ง€์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ActivityPub ํ”„๋กœํ† ์ฝœ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์—ฐํ•ฉ์šฐ์ฃผ๋กœ ์ „ํŒŒ๋œ ์ด๋ฒคํŠธ์˜ ๊ณต์œ , ๊ด€์‹ฌ ํ‘œ์‹œ, ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ๋“ฑ ์ธ๊ฒŒ์ด์ง€๋จผํŠธ(engagement) ๋ถ„์„ ์ง€ํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์—ฌ ์ฃผ์ตœ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ™๋ณด ํšจ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋กœ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ์—…๋ฐ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ตœ์ง„์ด ๋”์šฑ ํšจ์œจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฐํ•ฉ์šฐ์ฃผ ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„์™€ ๊ธด๋ฐ€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์  ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋งˆ๋ จํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ํฐ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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What no one has remarked thus far, is that this has a serious flaw. Sure, if you're in a village or city you can find roads and highways that lead you to answer the question above.

But if you are in a Ghost Town out in the wilderness, the poll likely won't pass by your timeline. And warp the outcome of this little survey.

:boosts_appreciated: Boosts are appreciated so the poll has more chance to find the outer reaches of our fedi universe.

Even more remarkable is the near complete absence of the developer community in mingling in the social side of the discussion.

To learn how actually *experience* this here fediverse. A which results from them tying their apps together, to hopefully get more than the sum of individual parts. By means of facilitating , technically speaking. But it involves more than getting that feature across the wire to the next app.

There's exists a clear gap between and , where the latter must serve the former to bring real solutions. Otherwise it is all apps and not much seamless social fabric to navigate. No peopleverse anywhere in sight. Just apps and users of them.

The apps see great success, and I enjoy their use a lot. But I don't see a future for the app-centric fediverse where it comes to providing mankind the future of .

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

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@jwildeboerJan Wildeboer ๐Ÿ˜ท:krulorange: @foxFox Ritch :fjoxicon:๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช @raphaelRaphael Lullis @julian @mariusormarius

No, not necessarily. The idea of the Grassroots open standard is that it allows an ecosystem that can evolve. That AP 2.0 artifact can be informal, and gradually adopted in W3C tracks, which I have always been advocating for with the 3-stage bottom-up standardization process in the past.

Other than that I am musing about a different approach, which is Protosocial, an AP extension that is 1.0 compliant. Yet not compliant to the protocol decay and tech debt ridden fediverse that grew by post-facto interop over time.

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

@jwildeboerJan Wildeboer ๐Ÿ˜ท:krulorange:

Besides falling in the thread by context collapse with an unsubstantive remark (which I don't blame you for, as such is the nature of this communication medium), I've been posting extensively on some of the wicked challenges we must overcome, and which determine the future(s) of the fediverse(s) we have today. There is a lot to ponder about. It is not all technical in nature, and I'd argue our problems are more on the social side of things even.

An open standard is a technical artifact. The reason why someone creates the next standard, is a social one. Coding is social.

What is very remarkable is that on a poll asking fedizens about their social experience, and discussing deeper issues in the various subthreads, not any of the developers are mingling in.

This shows more than anything to me the app-centric nature of the fediverse, and how it evolves in a pure technosphere where app devs are in charge, the rest are users.

@foxFox Ritch :fjoxicon:๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช @raphaelRaphael Lullis @julian @mariusormarius

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@csarvenSarven Capadisli @strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba

Writing even more stuff, on microblogs that are about the worst choice of medium to discuss this. Which I mentioned 100 sticky notes above, or so, in fleety timeline history. But it is the comms channel of choice unfortunately.

Applications like yours, @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft, and ActivityPods and others are the ones that can inspire people to take an interest in the LD technology space again. Show what's possible.

If they decide to take the leap and experiment with LD then the next hurdles are existing tool and library support. And next they need to find help and guidance (hopefully) in the body of work and information left behind by others who came before them in similar kinds of solution designs. That is another pain point. They are used to webapps where a single search offers them a ton of frameworks to 'just get going' - which is an utter Rube Goldberg mess, but it is *their* mess where they feel comfortable, and if the framework fits, productive too.

@csarvenSarven Capadisli @strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

My arguments of the last two weeks that are spread about the timeline, boils down that Coding is Social, and code alone and passion for tech isn't always enough. Esp. if one depends on an entire technology ecosystem in a pioneering stage of its technology adoption lifecycle, that should evolve along with them. And which evolves on the basis of chaotic grassroots social dynamics that no one is able to steer onto a healthy adoption path. There are wicked problems to overcome, and they are mostly social in nature. I took notes on this for the fediverse years ago, and these challenges are still the same to this day, haven't been tackled.

discuss.coding.social/t/major-

We have a successful fediverse now, but also one who has limited its application area, hemmed themselves in wrt the original 'promise' of AP. With the API there's opportunity to make step in place, and get some of that back. And go LD route too.

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

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I'm happy to see new canadian social media like https://ehnow.ca/ and https://hey.cafe #canada

But so far, I still think #activitypub #mastodon and the #fediverse are the superior options.

Mostly because it's #decentralized and #federated

But most non-tech (normal) people don't understand those concepts.

They don't wanna deal with the fediverse because the learning curve is too high and they simply don't understand.

They just want something simple and that works.

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@johannabJohanna, CanCon variant

Read the blog post, and these are astute observation and valuable way of thinking about the networking environment, both offline as well as online, and how they interact together, how they intertwine. envisions a peopleverse (which is a concept, not a name), a hypothetical space where the interaction is seamless and technology unobtrusively serves our day to day needs.

is a powerful instrument to design better social experiences.

Often the talk of the town in the dev circles is about some feature or other, an app functionality and the extent to which it can be made interoperable. Technical implementation details dominate the discussion. And drama ensues on the broader if social impact and other externalities are overlooked in an app design.

When comparing we have today, it really is like sticky notes on the fridge, which fall off or are removed by people. And we project all communication modes onto them.

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@smallcircles๐Ÿซง socialcoding..

that last line - that's exactly it. I've been mostly under-the-radar blogging my thinking on this again lately (having started making these observations in 1989-90).

My current interest is (re)connecting real-world, localizable communities and real-world Third Places, using digital social tools as *tools* for those human social networks to get their needs met.

This ramble a few months ago was one related thought: johannab.ca/theBlog/2025-10-07

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@strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

For the sake of further clarity I should point to your starting post and this text:

> we need domain-specific applications that leverage ActivityPubโ€™s full semantic potential

And remark that in my opinion and by observation, tapping the sign "Reminder: is , folks!" isn't enough. Much more is needed than pointing to the to win back developers minds to adopt . There is a high reluctance and resistance to adoption that must be overcome.

Referring again to that adoption chart I drafted the other day - which is about , but this is where LD is strong(est?) today - "build open standards, and they will come" isn't going so well. I hope that changes, as I have always been a fan of the *notion* of the semantic web. Yet in role of a technology decision maker, not ready to bet on it for a social networking environment.

@smallcircles๐Ÿซง socialcoding.. @strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

Hi, author of some things here. I can assure you that that is more of that big bad "semantic web" stuff baked into than there is to but people spin things as they want to for a narrative. That said, totally agree with you that do x and y will come is not enough. Folks conflate various variables or attempt to boil things down to a single perspective. The reality is far more strange and unpredictable.

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@strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

No, not overlooking the forest, but forgot the quote..

You:

> IIRR the Semantic Web was shouldered aside by "Web 2.0" (AJAX, pseudo-REST, etc), with the idea that we'd all use platforms in place of richer semantics. We all know how that turned out ; )

This is not how I remember it. Semantic Web wasn't "shouldered aside". At the time of the hype cycle the corporate world was full on board. It was more Semantic Web that spectacularly failed to deliver (against the expectations of the hype cycle) and in many areas was a solution in search of a problem. And pragmatic developers refusing to use something they felt was overengineered, and that coincided with the same feelings around XML which was overused in areas where it shouldn't.

@strypey @FinchHavenFinchHaven sfba @naturzukunft2026naturzukunft

For the sake of further clarity I should point to your starting post and this text:

> we need domain-specific applications that leverage ActivityPubโ€™s full semantic potential

And remark that in my opinion and by observation, tapping the sign "Reminder: is , folks!" isn't enough. Much more is needed than pointing to the to win back developers minds to adopt . There is a high reluctance and resistance to adoption that must be overcome.

Referring again to that adoption chart I drafted the other day - which is about , but this is where LD is strong(est?) today - "build open standards, and they will come" isn't going so well. I hope that changes, as I have always been a fan of the *notion* of the semantic web. Yet in role of a technology decision maker, not ready to bet on it for a social networking environment.

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@johannabJohanna, CanCon variant No, not at all snarky. ๐Ÿ’•

What is so interesting is to discern between the technical and social, and I think that most people have a very functional-technical perspective of what it means to communicate online, so to say. Consider it merely as extra channels to interact with others, more choice to connect.

But of course our online social network is much more than merely a channel, and we have to 'project our social' somehow over these thin copper and fiberglass wires, while we try to make sense and interpret the social signals that come from other remote places.

I think we underestimate the impact of communicating online, and the narrow 'social bandwidth' that our current networking tools support. Then we translate online situations to how we would behave offline and get wrong expectations, misconceptions, and subequenctly miscommunications.

We are still all youngers online, still all learning the ropes, while we do social networking offline for 1,000's of years already.

@johannabJohanna, CanCon variant I for my part are very happy you find this interesting. Addressing the social side is not the most popular among developer-heavy crowds :)

Feel welcome to participate in our matrix channels or forum. The latter serves as a note-taking tool, or - under SX definition - as a commons based prosperity vault, aggregating value over time as people leave their 2 cents.

Note the SX Mindfulness principle of Social coding commons.. the movement moves, or it pauses awaiting value aggregation by the next participant. Timeless. Everything hinges on proactive participation (and on the basis of intrinsic motivation following Hedonic peer production principles).

I am mentioning, as at the moment the movement is slow-moving, since I am looking for income to sustain my work in the commons. In other words I must let the SX Sustainability principle prevail now :)

Here a link to the core principles of Social experience design:

coding.social/blog/reimagine-s

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Glimmers of hope in dark times, !

Look at the responses to this asking how people experience our emerging fedi..

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

A landscape of small villages, scattered with occasional larger cities, is the general perception thus far and that is a wonderful difference when contrasting to corporate ad-driven influencer-dominated platforms we have today.

It would be nice if some of the people who voted Ghost Town gave their impression and needs they have wrt the fediverse.. cc @mikeymikeytoo many names

Also ghost-towners, check out @FediThingFediThing ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ reply to the poll's thread:

social.chinwag.org/@FediThing/

And @nicolNicol Wistreich reply at:

social.coop/@nicol/11615902652

If you didn't vote yet, do so now. And consider adding your boost. It is literally about uplifting our online social universe. ๐ŸŒป

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Recap for an activitypub instance.

OK let's recap.
I have a GMKtec nucbox G3, Intel n100, 512gb ssd, 16gb ram.

  • mastodon-glitchsoc: no. Not for a small instance. Too heavy.
  • Sharkey: no. Not for a small instance. Too heavy, and too ma'y informations on the screen.
  • Mitra: no. Could have been good one, but users can write stuff and make it readable only if you pay with XRM (or other crypto shit)
  • Iceshrimp: no. The dev is random.
  • Hubzilla: why not. But doesn't work properly with my yunohost setup.
  • BonFire: why not. But nobody knows it. There is no mobile app so far, but it's planned.
  • Akkoma: why not, but it's hell to install.
  • Gotosocial: why not. But there is no UI, need to use phanpy, phanpy doesn't have mobile app and needs to be pinned on the screen. Other mobile apps take GTS in charge though. Haven't found anything bad until now.
  • Hollo: why not, but when it will be on Yunohost, otherwise I don't want to use a specific service (railway, as apparently it's the fastest way to install it)
  • Snac2: why not, probably the simplest to set up, lightweight. But need an nginx to point the domain on the software, and need a reverse proxy. It has a minimalist UI.

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Did you know that with you can enable verification?

If your Fediprofile links to your Mastodon account, and your Mastodon account links back to your Fediprofile, both will show as verified. Simple, mutual verification.

And you can go beyond the 4-link limit. One link to rule them all.

Check out the project here: hub.vocalcat.com and if you are willing to get your hands-dirty and test, send me a private message for an invitation code.

a screenshot of my mastodon showing links as verifieda screenshot of fediprofile showing my mastodon as verified
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Even more than Gleam community the AS/AP based fediverse faces existential threats where it comes to the promise to lead us towards "the future of social networking", a peopleverse. And poses high danger risks that must be known, so we can anticipate and mitigate them timely.

But above all we have to find ways to constructively collaborate with each in this chaotic grassroots environment we are part of.

and at scale, organic growth and sustainable evolution are applied research areas of Social coding commons, where participants add value while working on their own solutions, following their self-interests in alignment with those of other people

To folks who are interested in the general subject matter I addressed above, I recommend watching the talk given by Michiel Leenaars of @nlnet at last month:

"FOSS in times of war, scarcity and (adversarial) AI" by @michielMichiel Leenaars

fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event

@nlnet @michielMichiel Leenaars

And see also the extensive posts I made the past 2 weeks on the subject matter, reiterating the many subjects and challenges of healthy ecosystem formation that ail the community and at large for many years now. I pinned one of those relevant threads to my profile at:

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

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Whatever we think of / mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society.

is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions.

stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and the holistic approach to ensure that.

Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or , solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the .

In the thread below I copied a post to 's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks.

discuss.coding.social/t/calm-c

Even more than Gleam community the AS/AP based fediverse faces existential threats where it comes to the promise to lead us towards "the future of social networking", a peopleverse. And poses high danger risks that must be known, so we can anticipate and mitigate them timely.

But above all we have to find ways to constructively collaborate with each in this chaotic grassroots environment we are part of.

and at scale, organic growth and sustainable evolution are applied research areas of Social coding commons, where participants add value while working on their own solutions, following their self-interests in alignment with those of other people

To folks who are interested in the general subject matter I addressed above, I recommend watching the talk given by Michiel Leenaars of @nlnet at last month:

"FOSS in times of war, scarcity and (adversarial) AI" by @michielMichiel Leenaars

fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event

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There's a new project called Holos which makes it a lot easier to host a Fediverse server on your own mobile device. You can follow the project at:

โžก๏ธ @HolosSocial

The official site explains how it works:

โžก๏ธ holos.social/how-it-works

To manage expectations, it's still in its early days and mainly for techy people at the moment. However, it will be interesting to follow its development ๐Ÿ™‚

Holos is by the makers of the Mastodon/Fediverse mobile app Fedilab.

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There have been many experiments with adding simple ActivityPub support to static blogs, enabling authors to publish their blog into the fediverse to be followed and get commented on. Some of these experimenters have documented what they did, and I've started a list of examples here;

codeberg.org/fediverse/fedipar

I chucked this together in a hurry, so please prod me about any mistakes, or any additions that could be made to the list.

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@fwtlDawa

Note btw, that for the most part algorithms are not causing the issue of bad integrations between apps. These are due to the pragmatic nature in which our current app-centric fediverse evolves, i.e. by means of post-facto interoperability. Here app developers focus on getting app features on the wire, and whomever first succeeds in making their new custom protocol extension to become popular, becomes the de-facto standard for that feature. And everyone else should "follow the leader" or push themselves out of mainstream fediverse adoption, into their own app niche.

This is not a sustainable path, and I am among years-long advocates that we should do better in how we collectively evolve the fedi, so that it can truly become the social networking of the future. See also my posts from last week, like:

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

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Would it be inappropriate to draft an FEP for this? One that addresses;

* (or whatever) as the standard tag for fediverse dev meta

* Filtering out posts with the tag by default for new accounts, unless they opt-in to receiving them

* Auto-adding the tag to all posts output by developer forums like SocialHub and ActivityPub.Space

* Methods like the ones @julian describes above, for ingesting and making use of posts with the tag

* ?

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RE: social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

@Coho @maikelMaikel ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ

I think we also have to be careful and gauge the extent to which we get informed on problems by the way we shaped our own bubble / echo chamber over time.

Today for instance I sent a poll and got astoundingly and delightful positive responses on how people experience ..

I intend to follow up with another poll. But the poll results already show a new paradigm of social networking that which Social experience design calls . On the fedi you are in control over your own by carefully curating your social graph.

coding.social/blog/reimagine-s

Here's that poll btw, which will run for 6 more days. Curious about the final results.

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Loops just shipped support for more interactionPolicy types, giving our community more control to limit certain interactions, like disabling comments or QuotePosts.

Huge shout out to GotoSocial and @dumpsterqueertobi (they/them) is writing bugs :terminal_cursor: for stewarding this ActivityPub extension to better protect our communities.

Isn't it amazing what is possible when projects that would normally compete with each other, can instead collaborate and build safer communities for all?

We all win when we put people first.

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ๆฑ(๋™)์•„์‹œ์•„์—๋„ FediCon ๊ฐ™์€ ่กŒไบ‹(ํ–‰์‚ฌ)๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ็•ช(๋ฒˆ) ํ•ด์™”๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ็จ็ซ‹็š„(๋…๋ฆฝ์ )์ธ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋Š” ์•„์ง ์–ด๋ ต๋”๋ผ๋„, ์ž‘์€ ์ฒซ๊ฑธ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

@COSCUP 2026(่‡บๅŒ—(ํƒ€์ด๋ฒ ์ด), 8ๆœˆ(์›”) 8ๆ—ฅ(์ผ)โ€“9ๆ—ฅ(์ผ))์ด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ํŠธ๋ž™ ๆๆกˆ(์ œ์•ˆ)์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. FOSDEM์˜ Social Web devroom ๊ฐ™์€ ๋А๋‚Œ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ Social Web ํŠธ๋ž™์„ ์—ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๆง‹ๆƒณ(๊ตฌ์ƒ) ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•„์ง ็ขบๅฎš(ํ™•์ •)๋œ ๊ฑด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, , , ๆˆ–(ํ˜น)์€ ์†Œ์…œ ์›น ๅ…จ่ˆฌ(์ „๋ฐ˜)์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ็™ผ่กจ(๋ฐœํ‘œ)๋‚˜ ๅ…ฑๅŒ(๊ณต๋™) ์˜ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜์ด์ง•์— ้—œๅฟƒ(๊ด€์‹ฌ)์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹  ๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๊ฑธ์–ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.

https://floss.social/@COSCUP/116152356550445285

ไปฅๅ‰ใ‹ใ‚‰ใ€ๆฑใ‚ขใ‚ธใ‚ขใซใ‚‚FediConใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚คใƒ™ใƒณใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใชใจ่จ€ใ„็ถšใ‘ใฆใใพใ—ใŸใ€‚็‹ฌ่‡ชใฎใ‚ซใƒณใƒ•ใ‚กใƒฌใƒณใ‚นใฏใพใ ้›ฃใ—ใใ†ใงใ™ใŒใ€ๅฐใ•ใชไธ€ๆญฉใจใ—ใฆ่€ƒใˆใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚

@COSCUP 2026๏ผˆๅฐๅŒ—ใ€8ๆœˆ8ๆ—ฅใ€œ9ๆ—ฅ๏ผ‰ใŒใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒˆใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎๆๆกˆใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ไป˜ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚FOSDEMใฎSocial Web devroomใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ„Ÿใ˜ใงใ€Social Webใƒˆใƒฉใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚’้–‹ใ‘ใชใ„ใ‹ใชใจๆ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใ“ใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚

ใพใ ๆง‹ๆƒณๆฎต้šŽใงใ™ใŒใ€ActivityPubใ‚„ใƒ•ใ‚งใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใƒใƒผใ‚นใ€ใ‚ฝใƒผใ‚ทใƒฃใƒซใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ๅ…จ่ˆฌใซๅ–ใ‚Š็ต„ใ‚“ใงใ„ใฆใ€็™บ่กจใ‚„ๅ…ฑๅŒใ‚ชใƒผใ‚ฌใƒŠใ‚คใ‚บใซ่ˆˆๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ๆ–นใŒใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€ใœใฒ่ฉฑใ—ใ‹ใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚

https://floss.social/@COSCUP/116152356550445285

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I've been saying for a while that we need something like FediCon in East Asia. A dedicated conference is still a stretch, but I've been thinking about a smaller step:

@COSCUP 2026 (Taipei, Aug 8โ€“9) is accepting proposals for community tracks. It might be worth trying to open a Social Web track thereโ€”something in the spirit of the Social Web devroom at FOSDEM.

Nothing is decided yet, but if you're working on , the , or anything in the social web space and might be interested in speaking (or co-organizing), I'd love to hear from you.

https://floss.social/@COSCUP/116152356550445285

ๆฑ(๋™)์•„์‹œ์•„์—๋„ FediCon ๊ฐ™์€ ่กŒไบ‹(ํ–‰์‚ฌ)๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข‹๊ฒ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ็•ช(๋ฒˆ) ํ•ด์™”๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. ็จ็ซ‹็š„(๋…๋ฆฝ์ )์ธ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค๋Š” ์•„์ง ์–ด๋ ต๋”๋ผ๋„, ์ž‘์€ ์ฒซ๊ฑธ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

@COSCUP 2026(่‡บๅŒ—(ํƒ€์ด๋ฒ ์ด), 8ๆœˆ(์›”) 8ๆ—ฅ(์ผ)โ€“9ๆ—ฅ(์ผ))์ด ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ ํŠธ๋ž™ ๆๆกˆ(์ œ์•ˆ)์„ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”. FOSDEM์˜ Social Web devroom ๊ฐ™์€ ๋А๋‚Œ์œผ๋กœ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ Social Web ํŠธ๋ž™์„ ์—ด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์„๊นŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๆง‹ๆƒณ(๊ตฌ์ƒ) ์ค‘์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์•„์ง ็ขบๅฎš(ํ™•์ •)๋œ ๊ฑด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†์ง€๋งŒ, , , ๆˆ–(ํ˜น)์€ ์†Œ์…œ ์›น ๅ…จ่ˆฌ(์ „๋ฐ˜)์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ็™ผ่กจ(๋ฐœํ‘œ)๋‚˜ ๅ…ฑๅŒ(๊ณต๋™) ์˜ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜์ด์ง•์— ้—œๅฟƒ(๊ด€์‹ฌ)์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹  ๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ๊ฑธ์–ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.

https://floss.social/@COSCUP/116152356550445285

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I've been saying for a while that we need something like FediCon in East Asia. A dedicated conference is still a stretch, but I've been thinking about a smaller step:

@COSCUP 2026 (Taipei, Aug 8โ€“9) is accepting proposals for community tracks. It might be worth trying to open a Social Web track thereโ€”something in the spirit of the Social Web devroom at FOSDEM.

Nothing is decided yet, but if you're working on , the , or anything in the social web space and might be interested in speaking (or co-organizing), I'd love to hear from you.

https://floss.social/@COSCUP/116152356550445285

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@lapriceLocal Agency yes. Though it is not always clear what was the reason for the edit.

(Update: Now I edited because I too hurriedly reacted just to the first part of your reply, and repeated your point, which I now removed from the text ๐Ÿ˜… )

But there are other (ab)uses I see from time to time. Some people use editing to turn their post into something of a real-time live blog, e.g. where they update who just presented at a conference. That is very annoying, and I would call it an anti-pattern, an undesirable side effect.

@lapriceLocal Agency

A client sotware might add extra friction to discourage the anti-pattern, e.g. by requiring the formulation of a reason for the edit with a minimum amount of chars.

Also this reason might be federated. After all a 'federated edit' is something very different than an edit in your personal notepad in a local file. There are more abusive patterns that relate to editing. Thus enforce provisioning a good reason for edits.

(Update: Now I edited to add an important extra point to the post. And this is indiscernable from a growth hacker tactic. Plus if one isn't a growth hacker, and ones toot becomes popular - "goes viral", I hate that term - it is attractive and tempting to keep it all together in that post.)

This will make editing generally be less accessible, more unfriendly UX-wise, but there's something to say for having "Minimize post edits" be a best-practice on the social web.

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๐Ÿค”

Noting a small likely unintentional side effect of the ability to edit posts on the fediverse..

It enables would-be influencers to use that as a growth-hacking tactic in their arsenal. Whereby editing a post some time after it was published, will serve to remind all people who interacted with it before (by receiving the 'edited' notification). And for those who only favorited another stimulus and opportunity to boost the post as well.

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In the , most software is built around a specific platform model. One for microblogging, one for video, one for photos... and new ones will keep coming.
With , your phone runs your own server. You control your data and can use your own domain as your identity.
Built on the protocol, not a platform model, Holos is not limited to a single use case. One account that adapts to your needs.
That's where we're heading, and we hope for your support.

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@smallcircles๐Ÿซง socialcoding.. @silverpill @raphaelRaphael Lullis @julian @mariusormarius ActivityPub as a space is just a mess, we have multiple types of social media clashing all over one protocoll whcih has a bunch of extensions with some being duplicates of other extensions and then diffrent people fighting over which one is the proper one to implement. At somepoint we just need to reset everything and start from a clean plate cause this shit cant go on forever.

@foxFox Ritch :fjoxicon:๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช @silverpill @raphaelRaphael Lullis @julian @mariusormarius

Yes. I tooted about the need for Grassroots open standards and Grassroots standardization this morning..

social.coop/@smallcircles/1161

In a decentralized grassroots movement, somewhere there needs to an aggregation of the solution artifact. In this case a robust, comprehensible standard that can be readily implemented in libraries, frameworks and SDK's upon which then subsequently solution design can take place.

This is not centralization, this artifact can be federated. But there must be a place of convergence where consensus on protocol design comes together.

There might be a crowdsourced ActivityPub 2.0 specs + documentation site, plus a process around it to make it work.

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@hongminheeๆดช ๆฐ‘ๆ†™ (Hong Minhee) :nonbinary: @kopperkopper :colon_three:

This thread, in particular the starting post, are direction to move towards. We know this for years. Somehow there's a deep inertia to correct course. This "somehow" is the area of applied research that Social experience design focuses on and intends to provide solutions for: the very particular social dynamics that exist in grassroots environment, such as the FOSS movement and fediverse.

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