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I think Matrix still has my favorite decentralized service username schema. :blobfoxthinkanime:

@user:domain.tld makes a lot of intuitive sense to me and looks really clean. It's really clear which part is the username and which is the domain without looking repetitive. It starts with an @ so it tells clients to pull up the username lookup when you start typing, but it doesn't get kludgy like other username schemas do.

user@domain.tld makes sense for email I guess because you can't really @ people inline, but it doesn't work well for other services because it doesn't start with an @ so it doesn't indicate to the client to pull up the username lookup. I'm curious how XMPP handles this. :soft_thinking:

@user@domain.tld that Fedi uses looks awful to me. I hate the double @'s, it just doesn't scan very well and looks silly. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like my username is being flanked by boobies. :neodog_think_googly: (Technically Fedi uses WebFinger/the email schema under the hood from the last example and the double @'s are just user-facing in order to trigger the inline username lookup, but meh, I'm including it.)

@domain.tld that Bluesky uses seems clean on the surface, but then you realize your username is (usually) just a domain name which is... weird. :meowwaitwhat: Then you're stuck making a subdomain for your username if you couldn't get a dedicated domain for it, so then it becomes @user.domain.tld or even @user.subdomain.domain.tld which is just, like, idk a lot of dots. :soft_sweating: It makes sense for ATProto because of how the DIDs work, but it's still not my favorite.

I know I've made this ramble before but I'm like Fedi handles where I'm hopelessly repetitive :soft_dab:

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If you are bridging your Fediverse account with fed.brid.gy/ to bluesky, you can also make a custom username for the bridged bluesky handle, if you have a domain.
This is my bridged Pixelfed account:
bsky.app/profile/punk.photos

I still have to do this for my Mastodon account...

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看了这几篇文章,我又想重新托管部署bluesky了 :neobread_hug_dog_heart:
虽然bluesky的invaild handle让我在深夜两点还在用termius的我崩溃 :neobread_scream_angry:

1. pds 个人数据服务器 github.com/bluesky-social/pds 继续选择docker部署
2. bsky.app在中国大陆被墙了,whtwnd.com/ 是类似bsky.app的AppView,但是功能风格大不一样
3. AppView自托管 每天大约需要 2.2GB 的磁盘空间,感觉开销还是有点大的 github.com/alnkesq/AppViewLite
4. 最好的关于bsky的解释,很高兴看到某些社交软件慢慢能够互通,又与第五条有些冲突了 reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments
5. 非常好的介绍各种去中心化服务的去中心化程度reddit例外,我很喜欢lemmy,但是单人lemmy实在太难运行下去了,除非将lemmy作为博客来写,就算这样我也只坚持了3个月 github.com/NoBadDays/decentral

在我看来bsky的自托管和去中心化确实很低,大多数都是用于逃离twitter的普通用户

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Bluesky's role in the ATmosphere is somewhat analogous to Mastodon's in the Fediverse back in 2022: it's the biggest and best-known app, and gets almost all the press, but isn't the main source of innovation.

So when I look at the interesting stuff happening in the ATmosphere, it's Blacksky (creating intercommunal software with a strong mutual aid focus), Germ (E2EE messaging integrated with ATProto accounts), Aendra's XBlock labeler, Anisota (a reallllly different UI for microblogging), microcosm (refactoring the underlying architecture), the feed that Graze put together for the New York mayor's election ... etc etc. They're all experimental, adept at circumventing limitations, community-focused, self-driven. None of them are employed by Bluesky (EDIT: although a couple of them have gotten small grants froim Bluesky).

But just as people outside fedi tend to reduce it to Mastodon, people outside the ATmosphere tend to reduce it to Bluesky. And just as that leads people outside fedi to overlook all the interesting and promising things here (and irritates and marginalized everybody where who's working on stuff other than Mastodon), people in fedi wind up overlooking all the interesting and promising things happening in the ATmosphere (and irritate and marginalize everybody there who's working on stuff other than Bluesky). And that specifically includes some of the high-profile fedi influencers who have been especially hostile to the ATmosphere.

As for Bluesky PBC, no of course I don't trust them. They're a venture-funded startup, of course they're going to put their own interests first; they've shown they don't prioritize safety or community; etc etc etc. Then again, back in 2022 Mastodon gGmbH's was completely controlled by a BDFL who had a track record of putting Mastodon's instances first and not prioritizing safety and community. But just as Mastodon gGmbH's issues weren't the only thing going on in fedi as a whole back then, I don't see Bluesky PBC's issues as the only thing going on in the ATmosphere these days.

(Of course, Mastodon's recent organizational changes are very encouraging, and hopefully they'll start prioritizing safety and community and working to advance fedi's interests as a whole. Still, that hasn't happened yet, and they're still by far the largest platform and user base ... so let's not go patting ourselves on our collective back too hard on this front yet!)

@informapirata

Back to @captaincalliope.blueLyre Calliope's original pointsin this thread:

I want a new flagship app that isn't a Twitter clone on the surface.

Indeed -- Rudy Fraser talked a lot about this in his ATmosphereConf presentation. And the same is true here in fedi, where Mastodon is still dominant. I think of this in a couple dimensions

  • getting beyond microblogging, but still skeumorphic to well-known centralized systems (Pixelfed and Lemmy here; Flashes, Skylight, and Streamplace in the ATmosphere). If done well, that's valiuable in terms of getting people to the ecosystem (from an activism perspective, the lack of a skeumorphic approximation to Facebook groups is a huge barrier) but my guess this is still likely to have somewhat limited impact. When was the last time when a better skeumorphic app ever really caught on and displaced an incumbent>

  • less-skeumorphic software is where it really gets exciting. There's a lot of momentum here -- Bonfire, Bandwagon, Piefed are three good examples here in fedi, the stuff Blacksky is working in the ATmosphere -- but it's very hard to predict what will and won't catch on.

"I also want to see get some of the primitives that has such as decentralized identifiers (except for real), personal data stores, content addresses, etc.

I want to see both protocols cross-pollinate with each other's strengths. And perhaps share infrastructure like identities."

Yeah, totally agree. I think t here's been some cross-pollination in both directions (Blacksky's local-only posts were directly inspired by Hometown, Mastodon's FASP and Fedisovery are somewhat influenced by AT's Relay-based architecture) but there's certainly a lot of room for improvement.

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Has anybody tried loading the Atmosphere into column stores like DuckDB or Clickhouse? Esp social graphs or backlinks? Column stores have an advantage with compression on the primary sort keys, and I'm curious how it compares against special-built indexes like Jaz's roaring bitmaps

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Why the #OMN works with #ActivityPub – And why we need a bridge to #p2p

Hamish Campbell @info@hamishcampbell.com

Let's look at this. #ActivityPub is not a product. It’s not even really a “protocol” in the narrow, rigid sense that vertical tech likes to imagine. ActivityPub is a shared vocabulary, a public language for moving meaning and connection across the #openweb. It gives you nouns and verbs, and the community defines the grammar through lived use. This is why the #OMN works with ActivityPub, a metadata and meaning layer, not a platform, flows, not silos. ActivityPub is the widely deployed […]

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sharing my experiments with using "services" in DID doc. Say I'm going to add a new non-PDS service for atproto users. The registration step should be done from the service, and not from appview or via xrpc calls. The service itself should be able to perform as client. Two reasons:

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In a wide-ranging interview with @GargronEugen Rochko, creator of the decentralized social network @Mastodon, Rochko shared why Threads federation fell flat, why and will likely never merge, and what it will take to grow the .

coywolf.com/news/social-media/

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ATmosphere Report 142 (in two parts) - this weeks and news

- atproto platform Gander raises 1.3M CAD in fundraiser to build Canadian platform interoperable with Bluesky
- first step set for atproto becoming part of the IETF
- Semble.so is a new knowledge sharing platform, similar to platforms like are.na

connectedplaces.leaflet.pub/3m
and
connectedplaces.leaflet.pub/3m

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don't have an xrpc endpoint to update the DID doc without requiring email authentication right? I'm trying to make AppView to add additional non-atproto_pds service on user login, but it seems to be impossible without emailing. Asking user for an emailed token is not a good UX flow.

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icymi, in the Matrix State of the Union they said they didn't plan on pursuing decentralized social media, but they do hope to make it easier for those ecosystems to use Matrix so they don't have to reinvent what Matrix has already done

Screenshot of The Matrix State of the Union stram showing a powerpoint with the text:
The Future
- We're going to continue to laser-focus on being the best decentralized secure comms platform in the world.
- That means we're not going to purse decentralized social - good luck to ATproto, ActivityPub, Nostr etc.
- It means we're not going to pursue free-style decentralized data replication - good luck to Automerge, Beehive, Local-First etc.
- It means we're not going to build other Matrix showcases (e.g. Thirdroom)
- Instead, we are going to continue focusing everything on building a safe, global, resilient, secure communication network which can be used to build decentralized alternatives to WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Teams, Slack, Discord and friends.Screenshot of The Matrix State of the Union video showing a powerpoint with white background and black text that reads:
In practice, this means:
- Finish Hydra.
- Fix client-controlled cryptographic group membership (either by MLS, DMLS, or client-side state resolution.
- Improve metadata posture (Pseudo IDs, encrypted state events, maybe leveraging MLS)
- Improving Trust & Safety
- Ensuring that ecosystem-driven features like custom profiles, custom emoji, etc. actually land in the spec.
- Figuring out how Matrix can be used by other ecosystems more effectively, to try to avoid ATproto/ActivityPub/Nostr/Beehive etc. reinventing Matrix.
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Okay, so, I finally built that OAuth Client ID Metadata Service that I've been talking about on an off, and also verified it works with bluesky: cimd-service.fly.dev I did have to change my application_type to native to use localhost redirect URIs, which was annoying.

https://cimd-service.fly.dev/

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PDS Instances by Country 1. 🇺🇸 United States - 1694 (59.9%) 2. 🇩🇪 Germany - 325 (11.49%) 3. 🇫🇷 France - 118 (4.17%) 4. 🇨🇦 Canada - 111 (3.93%) 5. 🇬🇧 United Kingdom - 106 (3.75%) 6. 🇫🇮 Finland - 83 (2.93%) 7. 🇯🇵 Japan - 66 (2.33%) Full leaderboard and other stats coming soon at @atscan.net ;)

PDS Instances by Country 

1.	US United States
	1694 (59.9%)	38,920,287 (99.98%)
2.	DE Germany
	325 (11.49%)	893 (0%)
3.	FR France
	118 (4.17%)	248 (0%)
4.	CA Canada
	111 (3.93%)	447 (0%)
5.	GB United Kingdom
	106 (3.75%)	191 (0%)
6.	FI Finland
	83 (2.93%)	175 (0%)
7.	JP Japan
	66 (2.33%)	629 (0%)
8.	NL The Netherlands
	56 (1.98%)	1,031 (0%)
9.	AU Australia
	44 (1.56%)	75 (0%)
10.	SE Sweden
	29 (1.03%)	1,596 (0%)
11.	CH Switzerland
	20 (0.71%)	33 (0%)
12.	SG Singapore
	17 (0.6%)	257 (0%)
13.	ES Spain
	15 (0.53%)	1,012 (0%)
14.	AT Austria
	15 (0.53%)	50 (0%)
15.	BR Brazil
	12 (0.42%)	28 (0%)
16.	PL Poland
	11 (0.39%)	18 (0%)
17.	IE Ireland
	10 (0.35%)	53 (0%)
18.	IN India
	10 (0.35%)	16 (0%)
19.	RU Russia
	9 (0.32%)	13 (0%)
20.	IT Italy
	9 (0.32%)	17 (0%)
21.	DK Denmark
	7 (0.25%)	12 (0%)
22.	KR South Korea
	7 (0.25%)	11 (0%)
23.	CZ Czechia
	6 (0.21%)	74 (0%)
24.	NO Norway
	5 (0.18%)	8 (0%)
25.	HU Hungary
	5 (0.18%)	5 (0%)
26.	IS Iceland
	4 (0.14%)	13 (0%)
27.	HK Hong Kong
	4 (0.14%)	10 (0%)
28.	NZ New Zealand
	3 (0.11%)	4 (0%)
29.	ID Indonesia
	3 (0.11%)	6 (0%)
30.	BE Belgium
	3 (0.11%)	4 (0%)
31.	BG Bulgaria
	2 (0.07%)	2 (0%)
32.	AR Argentina
	2 (0.07%)	2 (0%)
33.	LU Luxembourg
	2 (0.07%)	2 (0%)
34.	RO Romania
	2 (0.07%)	3 (0%)
35.	ZA South Africa
	2 (0.07%)	3 (0%)
36.	UA Ukraine
	2 (0.07%)	4 (0%)
37.	PT Portugal
	1 (0.04%)	1 (0%)
38.	NC New Caledonia
	1 (0.04%)	2 (0%)
39.	MX Mexico
	1 (0.04%)	2 (0%)
40.	TW Taiwan
	1 (0.04%)	4 (0%)
41.	MO Macao
	1 (0.04%)	1 (0%)
42.	VN Vietnam
	1 (0.04%)	3 (0%)
43.	LT Lithuania
	1 (0.04%)	1 (0%)
44.	EE Estonia
	1 (0.04%)	3 (0%)
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WIRED: Would you welcome president Trump if he was debating joining bluesky?

@jay.bsky.teamJay 🦋: Yeah, is for everyone.

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I understand that should be for everyone, but decentralization means you don't have to allow everyone on your server. They can run their own and everyone can decide how to deal with that. The company doesn't need to make these decisions. She knows this.

I doubt @GargronEugen Rochko would welcome him on infrastructure.

bsky.app/profile/homelandgov.b

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i'm thinking of joining since a few of my friends are there. from what i can tell, it works quite differently to mastodon/fedi.

  • should i host my own "PDS"?
  • if i do, will i need terabytes of media storage? does my PDS store a copy of every image from every skeet it sees, or does it only store images i post?
  • are there usability disadvantages to self-hosting? since i'm on a single-user mastodon instance, a lot of posts don't federate to me (and vice versa, many instances won't see my posts. they're not missing out on much.). will that happen with bluesky?

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Missed @benWerd I/O's keynote at this year's @fediforum? Here's the full transcript. "The opportunity right now isn't to build a better Twitter or to provide a nice place for people who care about Linux to chat: it's to build infrastructure that vulnerable people can actually use to organize, to communicate safely, and to build community. But we can only do that if we're building with those communities from day one, not building for them based on our assumptions about what they need."

flip.it/Xs9Lur

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Fediverse Report 138 - this week's news

- a closer look at the Tumblr-like platform Wafrn, which connects to both and . Their latest update allows people to migrate their account to wafrn, joining the fediverse while staying connected to their bluesky network
- @loops is getting closer to joining the fediverse

Read at: connectedplaces.online/reports

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