What is Hackers' Pub?

Hackers' Pub is a place for software engineers to share their knowledge and experience with each other. It's also an ActivityPub-enabled social network, so you can follow your favorite hackers in the fediverse and get their latest posts in your feed.

ๆ„Ÿ่ฆบ้€™ๅ€‹ๆ™‚ไปฃใ€Œ็Ÿฅๆฅใ€็š„่ƒฝๅŠ›่ถŠไพ†่ถŠ่–„ๅผฑไบ†๏ผŒ่ทŸๆ—ฅ่ฃฝ็š„ๅฃ“็ธฎๆฉŸไธ€ๆจฃ็จ€ๅฐ‘ ๏ผˆX ๏ผˆ็คพๆœƒไบ‚่ฑก็š„ๆ นๆบ

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Mocking someone for the mistake they made in the code is NOT how you make a good argument.

Even if you think you have a good intent.

The damage you do by this outweighs any good which could possibly come from your "winning" in that particular discussion.

Making mistakes in public, acknowledging them and correcting them - it is how FOSS is done. It is the main thing which makes FOSS possible.

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1960๋…„๋Œ€ ๋ถํ•œ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๋’ค ๊ฐ„์ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฐ๋ ค ์‚ฌํ˜•๋‹นํ•œ ๊ณ  ์˜ค๊ฒฝ๋ฌด์”จ์˜ ์žฌ์‹ฌ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์ฃ„๊ฐ€ ํ™•์ •๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค์”จ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋งํ•œ์ง€ 53๋…„ ๋งŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

โ€˜๊ฐ„์ฒฉ ๋ˆ„๋ช… ์‚ฌํ˜•โ€™ ์˜ค๊ฒฝ๋ฌด์”จ, ์‚ฌ๋ง 53๋…„ ๋งŒ์— ์žฌ์‹ฌ์—...

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ๅไฟฎไพ‹้‹ๅ‹•ๅ…ญๅนด๏ผŒไป–ๅ€‘ๅ‡บ็„ๅพŒ่ตฐๅ…ฅไบ†ไบบ็”Ÿ็š„ๆ”ฏ็ทš | ็ซฏๅ‚ณๅช’ Initium Media
theinitium.com/article/2025062

> ไป–ๅฆ‚ๆญคๆถˆๅŒ–็œผๅ‰็š„ๆฑ‚่ท้šœ็ค™๏ผšใ€Œๆˆ‘ๅทฒ็ถ“ๅœจ่ฃก้ขๆตช่ฒปไบ†ๅนพๅนด๏ผŒไธๆƒณๅ‡บไพ†้‚„ๆ˜ฏๅบธๅบธ็ขŒ็ขŒ๏ผŒๅš่ทŸๅ็‰ขๅทฎไธๅคš็š„ไบ‹โ€”โ€”่พฆๅ…ฌๅฎคๆœไนๆ™šไบ”่ทŸๅ็‰ขๆฒ’ไป€้บผๅˆ†ๅˆฅใ€‚ๆˆ‘ไธๆƒณไธ€่ผฉๅญ้ƒฝ็ถไฝ่‡ชๅทฑ็š„ๆ‰‹่…ณใ€‚ใ€

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ๆ„Ÿ่ฆบ้€™ๅ€‹ๆ™‚ไปฃใ€Œ็Ÿฅๆฅใ€็š„่ƒฝๅŠ›่ถŠไพ†่ถŠ่–„ๅผฑไบ†๏ผŒ่ทŸๆ—ฅ่ฃฝ็š„ๅฃ“็ธฎๆฉŸไธ€ๆจฃ็จ€ๅฐ‘ ๏ผˆX ๏ผˆ็คพๆœƒไบ‚่ฑก็š„ๆ นๆบ

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๊ท€์ฐฎ์•„์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค์น˜๊ณ  ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ„๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š”, ๋ณธ์ธ์ด ๋ˆˆ๋”ฑ๊ฐ์œผ๋ฉด ๊ฐ๋‹น ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ์†Œํ•œ ์˜คํ•ด๋ž€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ๋‹น ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•  ๋งŒํผ ์‚ฌ์†Œํ•ด์š”?

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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ธฐ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ๊ทผ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉฐ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ "๊ธธ๋ฐ”๋‹ฅ์—์„œ ๋Œ€๋ณ€ ๋จน๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ"์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฐ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด, ์ˆ˜๋‹จ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ• ์•ˆ ๊ฐ€๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ถ€์ •ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฐจ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ๋Œ€๊พธ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ ํ•ด ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ง์ง€, "์–ด ๊ทธ๋ž˜ ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€๋ณ€๋จน์–ด ๋จน๋Š”๊ฑธ๋กœ ์น˜์ž ๋์ง€?" ๋ผ๋ฉฐ ๋Œ€์ถฉ ํ„ธ๊ณ  ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€ ์ถ”ํ˜ธ๋„ ์—†๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”...

RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ijc4yb24tysgjiaiib2ldgyk/post/3lsfzocd6rs2k

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๋‚ด๊ฐ€์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”์˜คํ† ์ฝ”๋…ธ์ฝ”๋Š” ์—ฌ์žฅํ•˜์ง€์•Š๊ณ  ์—ฌ์žฅ์˜์‹์—†๊ณ  ์—ฌ์ž์• ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฒƒ๋„์ธ์ง€ํ•˜์ง€๋ชปํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋…€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ์ƒ๊ธด์•„์ด๋ผ๊ณ 

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ๅคขๅˆฐๆˆฟ้–“็‡’่ตทไพ†
็ตๆžœๆˆ‘ๅšๅพ—็ฌฌไธ€ไปถไบ‹ๆ˜ฏๅ…ˆๆŠŠ้›ป่…ฆๆฌๅ‡บๅŽป๏ผŒ่€Œไธๆ˜ฏๆป…็ซโ€ฆ
็„ถๅพŒ็•ถๅ…ถไป–ไบบ้ƒฝๅœจๅนซๅฟ™ๆป…็ซ็š„ๆ™‚ๅ€™
ๆˆ‘้‚„ๅœจๆŠŠ้‡่ฆ็š„ๆฑ่ฅฟ๏ผŒๅƒๆ˜ฏ3DSใ€Wiiไน‹้กž็š„ๆฌๅ‡บไพ†
ๆˆ‘้ƒฝไธ็Ÿฅ้“ๆˆ‘ๅˆฐๅบ•ๅœจๅนนๅ˜› :ageblobcat:

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ๅฅใ‚„ใ‹ใชใ‚‹ใจใใ‚‚ใ€็—…ใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใใ‚‚ใ€ๅ–œใณใฎใจใใ‚‚ใ€ๆ‚ฒใ—ใฟใฎใจใใ‚‚ใ€ๅฏŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใใ‚‚ใ€่ฒงใ—ใ„ใจใใ‚‚ใ€ไนใ‚’ๆ„›ใ—ใ€ไนใ‚’ๆ•ฌใ„ใ€ไนใ‚’ๆ…ฐใ‚ใ€ไนใ‚’ๅŠฉใ‘ใ€ใใฎๅ‘ฝใ‚ใ‚‹้™ใ‚Šใ€ไนใซๅฐฝใใ™ใ“ใจใ‚’่ช“ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
่ช“ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“๏ผ๏ผ๏ผใชใ‚“ใงใ™ใ‹ใ“ใ‚Œใฏ๏ผ๏ผโ€‹:resonyance:โ€‹

ใง่ณชๅ•ใ‚’ๅ—ใ‘ไป˜ใ‘ใฆใ„ใพใ™
https://q.misskey.io/q/9mzo0cdr6o8t

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์•„... "์ง"์ด๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑฐ ์ฐธ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค.

๋ฌด์Šจ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ์—ฐ๊ธˆ์ˆ ์‚ฌ๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์ด์ •๋„๊นŒ์ง€ ํ•ด์•ผ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์ด์ง์ด๋ผ๋„ ๊ฒจ์šฐ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฒŒ...

์™œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ๊นŒ์ง€ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฌผ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ปจ์…‰๋„ ์žก์•„์•ผํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€

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ๅไฟฎไพ‹้‹ๅ‹•ๅ…ญๅนด๏ผŒไป–ๅ€‘ๅ‡บ็„ๅพŒ่ตฐๅ…ฅไบ†ไบบ็”Ÿ็š„ๆ”ฏ็ทš | ็ซฏๅ‚ณๅช’ Initium Media
theinitium.com/article/2025062

> ไป–ๅฆ‚ๆญคๆถˆๅŒ–็œผๅ‰็š„ๆฑ‚่ท้šœ็ค™๏ผšใ€Œๆˆ‘ๅทฒ็ถ“ๅœจ่ฃก้ขๆตช่ฒปไบ†ๅนพๅนด๏ผŒไธๆƒณๅ‡บไพ†้‚„ๆ˜ฏๅบธๅบธ็ขŒ็ขŒ๏ผŒๅš่ทŸๅ็‰ขๅทฎไธๅคš็š„ไบ‹โ€”โ€”่พฆๅ…ฌๅฎคๆœไนๆ™šไบ”่ทŸๅ็‰ขๆฒ’ไป€้บผๅˆ†ๅˆฅใ€‚ๆˆ‘ไธๆƒณไธ€่ผฉๅญ้ƒฝ็ถไฝ่‡ชๅทฑ็š„ๆ‰‹่…ณใ€‚ใ€

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1960๋…„๋Œ€ ๋ถํ•œ์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๋’ค ๊ฐ„์ฒฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋ชฐ๋ ค ์‚ฌํ˜•๋‹นํ•œ ๊ณ  ์˜ค๊ฒฝ๋ฌด์”จ์˜ ์žฌ์‹ฌ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์ฃ„๊ฐ€ ํ™•์ •๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค์”จ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋งํ•œ์ง€ 53๋…„ ๋งŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

โ€˜๊ฐ„์ฒฉ ๋ˆ„๋ช… ์‚ฌํ˜•โ€™ ์˜ค๊ฒฝ๋ฌด์”จ, ์‚ฌ๋ง 53๋…„ ๋งŒ์— ์žฌ์‹ฌ์—...

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ใ“ใ‚Œใฏvictoryใชใฎใ‹ใชใ€‚ไปŠใพใงใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซๆตท่ณŠ็‰ˆใ‚’ๅˆฉ็”จใงใใชใใชใ‚‹ใ€ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚

Anthropic wins a major fair use victory for AI โ€” but itโ€™s still in trouble for stealing books | The Verge

theverge.com/news/692015/anthr

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Mocking someone for the mistake they made in the code is NOT how you make a good argument.

Even if you think you have a good intent.

The damage you do by this outweighs any good which could possibly come from your "winning" in that particular discussion.

Making mistakes in public, acknowledging them and correcting them - it is how FOSS is done. It is the main thing which makes FOSS possible.

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์ € ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ์“ธ ๋•Œ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์™€ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์š”. "์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ €๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋‹ค ๋นจ๊ฐฑ์ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ฉด ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ณต์‚ฐ์ฃผ์˜์ž ํ•˜๋ จ๋‹ค" vs "์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ €๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋‹ค ํŠธ๋žœ์Šคํ—˜์˜ค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ฉด ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํ„ฐํ”„ ํ•˜๋ จ๋‹ค" ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ƒ์‹์ ์ธ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด ๋‘˜ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์ง€์š”.

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ํ”ผ๋ฉ”์ผ๋ฐ”๋””/๋ฉ”์ผ๋ฐ”๋”” ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑด ์‹ ์ฒด ํ˜•ํƒœ์˜ ์ฐจ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ(์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋”ฑ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฐ„์„ฑ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ) "์—ฌ์ž/๋‚จ์ž์˜ ์ •์‹ , ์˜ํ˜ผ"์ด๋ผ๋˜๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ์ €๋Ÿฐ๊ฑธ ๋‘๊ณ  "๋‚จ์ž๋‹ค์šด" ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ ์—ฌ๊ธด๋‹ค๋˜๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด ์ƒ์ง•๋“ฑ๋“ฑ ๊ทธ์™ธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ "๋ฌด์Šจ์„ฑ๋ณ„ ๋‹ค์šด ๊ฒƒ"์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ทœ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ž์ฒด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์„ฑ๊ด€๋…์ด๊ณ  ์„ฑ์ฐจ๋ณ„์˜ ์ž”์žฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด๋Š” ํŽธ.. ์™œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฒƒ์— "์„ฑ๋ณ„" ํ”„๋ ˆ์ž„์„ ์”Œ์šฐ๋Š”๊ฑด์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ• ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด์š” ํ…Œํ† ๋…€์—๊ฒ๋‚จ ์–ด์ฉŒ๊ตฌ๋„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์—์„œ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•ด

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"์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค ๋ฌธ์ œ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์œผ๋ฉด ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ (์ง‘๋‹จ๋ฉธ์นญ)์œผ๋กœ ๋ถˆ๋ฆฌ๊ธธ ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‹ค" ==> ์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ์ž๊ธฐ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— (์ง‘๋‹จ๋ฉธ์นญ)์— ์ง„์งœ๋กœ ์†ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ•œ๋‘ ๋ช…์ฏค ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๋„ ์•„๋ฌด ์ƒ๊ด€์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ธ์‹์ด ๋ณด์ด์ฃ ... ๋‚ด ์ฃผ๋ณ€์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ (์ง‘๋‹จ๋ฉธ์นญ)์ด ํ•œ ๋ช… ๋” ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋˜์–ด๋„ ์ƒ๊ด€์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์ „์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ง์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—...

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"Trapping AI" โ€“ Slight Update! ๐ŸŒ€

Activity in the "Trapping AI" project is accelerating: in just under a month, over 26 million requests have hit our tarpit URLs ๐Ÿ•ณ๏ธ. Vast volumes of meaningless content were devoured by AI crawlers โ€” ruthless digital leeches that relentlessly scour and pillage the web, leaving no data untouched.

In the coming days, weโ€™ll roll out a new layer of complexity โ€” amplifying both the intensity and offensiveness of our approach. This escalation builds on fakejpeg, a tool developed by @pengfoldAlun Jones.

๐Ÿ–ผ๏ธ fakejpeg generates fake JPEGs on the fly. You "train" it with a collection of existing JPEGs, and once trained, it can produce an arbitrary number of things that look like real JPEGs โ€” perfect for feeding aggressive web crawlers junk ๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ.

Explore fakejpeg: https://github.com/gw1urf/fakejpeg

Learn more about "Trapping AI": https://algorithmic-sabotage.github.io/asrg/trapping-ai/#expanding-the-offensiveness

See the tarpit in action: https://content.asrg.site/

A captured screenshot of a page generated by a tarpit (built on babble, a standalone LLM crawler-tarpit binary), deployed as part of the ongoing โ€˜Trapping AIโ€™ operation โ€” an endless stream of deterministic bollocks that traps crawlers on a single site and forces them to endlessly navigate a constantly expanding sea of pages ๐ŸŒŠ. Each new page spawns additional layers of meaningless text and dozens of links, dragging them ever deeper into the tarpit ๐Ÿ•ณ๏ธ.
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Ich mach heute nochmal Werbung fรผr das ZDF mitreden

Das ist eine Community, die das ZDF zur Meinungsforschung und -befragung aufgebaut hat und die wรถchtenlich zu Inhalten (Sendungen, Programm, Politik) befragt werden.

Natรผrlich haben sich die rechten dadrauf gestรผrzt und beeinflussen so das ZDF Programm mit. Jede demokratische Stimme zรคhlt. Bitte meldet euch da an und nehmt vor allem an der Umfrage zum teil (edit: wartet ein bisschen auf die Mail)

start-mitreden.zdf.de

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