What is Hackers' Pub?

Hackers' Pub is a place for software engineers to share their knowledge and experience with each other. It's also an ActivityPub-enabled social network, so you can follow your favorite hackers in the fediverse and get their latest posts in your feed.

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I don't think people here realized yet how much development has sped up in the "atmosphere*"

I fear for the future of the fediverse if we don't get our shit together in some key areas. The way the lexicon system over there allows interoperability between distinct types of data and interface is really showing now that the developer ecosystem is picking up.

*The network comprised of different stuff that uses AT Proto

I have been watching both spaces for many years (almost the beginning of fedi) and Bluesky when it was just a discord room before Jay was chosen. There is a major shift going on where some of the ideas that have been talked about in various shapes across various communities are being implemented with nice interfaces and able to be used by "normal people" aka not people who know how to patch their Linux kernal.

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I don't think people here realized yet how much development has sped up in the "atmosphere*"

I fear for the future of the fediverse if we don't get our shit together in some key areas. The way the lexicon system over there allows interoperability between distinct types of data and interface is really showing now that the developer ecosystem is picking up.

*The network comprised of different stuff that uses AT Proto

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์ˆ˜ํ•™์„ ์ „๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ต์œก์—…์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ทจ๋ฏธ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์†Œ์†Œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ SNS๋ฅผ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
๊ด€์‹ฌ๋ถ„์•ผ๋‚˜ ์ทจ๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ชจ๋‘์™€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
๋จผ์ € ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฆฌ์•ก์…˜์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฆฌ๋…ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋‚จ๊ฒจ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
โ€‹:pndslime_ojigi:โ€‹


์ˆ˜๊ณต์˜ˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋…ํ•™์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ทจ๋ฏธ์ƒํ™œ ์ค‘ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์Ÿ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
๋ ˆ์ง„๊ณต์˜ˆ๋กœ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์˜ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋„ ๋””์ž์ธ์„ ๊ตฌ์ƒํ•ด์„œ ์ €๋งŒ์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์žฅ์‹ํ’ˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๊ฐ„ UV๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ UV๋งŒ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€, ์ตœ๊ทผ์— 2์•กํ˜•์—๋„ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
โ€‹:spstar_blue:โ€‹< ๋ณ„๊ณผ ๊ผฌ๋ฆฌ > ๊ณต์˜ˆ / ์ปค๋ฏธ์…˜ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ : https://nanocomet.tistory.com/


๊ณ ๋“ฑํ•™์ƒ ๋•Œ ์ธํ„ฐ๋„ท์ž‘๊ฐ€๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ท”ํ•œ ์ „์ ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
๊ณ„์•ฝ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ์ข…๋ฃŒ ํ›„๋กœ๋Š” ์†Œ์†Œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธ€์„ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์“ฐ๋ฉฐ ์ง€๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
โ€‹:spstar_blue:โ€‹< ๋ณ„๊ณผ ์‚ฌ๋ง‰ > ํˆฌ๋น„ ๋ธ”๋กœ๊ทธ : https://tobe.aladin.co.kr/t/starsand


๊ทธ๋ฆผ์€ ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์šด ์ ์ด ์—†๊ณ , ํฐ ๋น„์ค‘์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
์•„์ฃผ ๊ฐ€๋” ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋„๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
์นดํŽ˜๋‚˜ ํŠธ์œ„ํ„ฐ์˜ ์ž์บ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์—๋„ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”!
โ€‹:spstar_blue:โ€‹< ๊ธฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๋‹ฌ > ์บ๋ฆญํ„ฐ ํ”„๋กœํ•„ ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ : https://waningmoon.creatorlink.net/


ํ˜„์žฌ ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฉ”์ด๋“œ ์ž‘๊ฐ€ ์—ฐํ•ฉ < ํŒ€ ์•™์ƒ๋ธ” > ์—์„œ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋‹˜๋“ค์„ ์ƒ์‹œ ๋ชจ์ง‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
์ง‘์—์„œ ์ทจ๋ฏธ๋กœ ๊ฐ„๊ฐ„ํžˆ ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„, ๋ช‡ ๋‹ฌ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์”ฉ ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„,
๋˜๋Š” ์ •์‹์œผ๋กœ ์—…์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋‹˜๋“ค๋„ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ชจ๋‘ ๋Œ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์€ ์†Œ๋ชจ์ž„์ด๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ํ™ˆํŽ˜์ด์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฐธ๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ, ํ˜„์žฌ ์˜ฌ๋ผ์™€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ž‘๊ฐ€๋‹˜๋“ค์˜ ์˜ˆ์œ ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค๋„ ๋งŽ์ด๋งŽ์ด ๊ตฌ๊ฒฝํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”!
โ€‹:spstar_blue:โ€‹ํ•ธ๋“œ๋ฉ”์ด๋“œ ์ž‘๊ฐ€ ์—ฐํ•ฉ < ํŒ€ ์•™์ƒ๋ธ” > : https://teamansemble.creatorlink.net/

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ใ†ใ‚ใƒผใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ฟใƒŸโ€ฆ
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ใ‚ฌใ‚ฝใƒชใƒณๆททๅ…ฅใฎ็ฏๆฒนใง็ซ็ฝใ‹ใ€€่ณผๅ…ฅ่€…ใฏ1600ไบบใ€€ๅฒ้˜œใƒปๅคงๅžฃ | ๆฏŽๆ—ฅๆ–ฐ่ž
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20260216/k00/00m/040/200000c

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ใ€Œใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ„ๅญฆ็”Ÿใ•ใ‚“ใƒปใƒปใƒปใƒˆใƒณใ‚ซใƒ„ใ‚’ใƒปใƒปใ€
ใ‚ฌใƒใƒƒ
ใ€Œใ‚„ใฃใ‚„ใ‚ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ไฝ•ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚“ใ ใ€
๏ฝž๏ฝž๏ฝž
ใ€ŒใŠใƒƒ
โคใŠใƒƒโค็งใŒใƒˆใƒณใ‚ซใƒ„ใ‚Œใ™โคใถใฒใฃใถใฒใฃโคใ€

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๊ตญํž˜์ด ๋Œ€๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๋ถ์ชฝ์— ์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ์„ ๋ฌด๋ ฅํ™”ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑธ ๋ณด๋ฉด
์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ตญํž˜์ด ๊ทน์šฐ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ์— ์ข…์†๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Œ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ.

๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ณด์ˆ˜์šฐํŒŒ๋“ค์€ '์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ์ด ๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค์˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์–ด๋ ค์›€ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜'์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์–ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ง€๋งŒ,

๊ทน์šฐ ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ๋Š” ์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ์ด ๋งˆ์น˜ ๊ตญ๋‚ด๊ธฐ์—… ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ตœ์•…์˜ ์ œ๋„...๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ ๋งˆ์น˜ ์ €๊ฑฐ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด์ง€๊ฒฝ์ด๋‹ค!! ์ทจ๊ธ‰์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ?

๊ตญํž˜์ด ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๊ฑฐ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์Ÿค๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ณด์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ทน์šฐ์ž„.

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๋ญ ์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ๋ฒ• ์ ์šฉ ์ œ์™ธ? ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์š•์„ ๋”ฑ ๋‹ˆ๋“ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“คํ•œํ…Œ๋งŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ์š•์€ ๋‹ˆ๋“ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์‹ ๋….

์—๋ผ์ด ํ‰ค!
๊ธฐ์—… ์œ ์น˜๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ ? ใ……ใ…‚ ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์—…์— ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋…ธ๋™์ž๋Š” ์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ ์ดํ•˜๋กœ ๋ฐ›์„ ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ ๊ทผ๋กœ์ž๋“ค๋กœ ๊ฝ‰ ์ฑ„์šธ ์‹ฌ์‚ฐ์ธ๊ฐ€๋ฒผ?

๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๊ฐœX ๊ฐ™์€ ์ •์ฑ…์ด์—ฌ? ์ผ๋ถ€ ๊ธฐ์—…๋งŒ ์‚ด์ฐŒ์šฐ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋‚˜๋งˆ ์ž„๊ธˆ์€ ์™ธ๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์ง€์—ญ ๋…ธ๋™์ž๋“ค์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ ์ฐพ์•„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ?

์—์œ  ์ง„์งœ ์š• ์•ˆํ• ๋ž˜๋„ ์•ˆํ• ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Œ.
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ใƒ–ใƒƒใ‚ฏใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚นใƒผใƒ‘ใƒผใƒใ‚ถใƒผใƒซใŒ
่ฟ‘ๆ‰€ใซใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใฎใง
ใƒ•ใ‚กใƒŸใ‚ณใƒณใ‚ณใƒฌใ‚ฏใ‚ทใƒงใƒณ
่ฒทใ„ใพใใ‚Š
โ€‹:desuwaaaaa__ii:โ€‹ โ€‹:meow_googlycheeks:โ€‹

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๋ฌด์ƒ๊ธ‰์‹์„ ์‹œ์ž‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์†Œ๋“... ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ชจ๋Ÿด ํ—ค์ €๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋‹ˆ, ๋นจ๊ฐฑ์ด ์ •์ฑ…์ด๋‹ˆ, ์ง€๋ž„๋“ค ํ•˜๋”๋‹ˆ...

์ด์žฌ๋ช…, ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ธฐํ•„์ฝ” ์ •์ƒํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ์ „์— ์ง€๋ž„ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ž…๋„ ๋ปฅ๊ธ‹ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ!
๋ญ ์ตœ์ €์ž„๊ธˆ๋ฒ• ์ ์šฉ ์ œ์™ธ? ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์š•์„ ๋”ฑ ๋‹ˆ๋“ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“คํ•œํ…Œ๋งŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค. ์š•์€ ๋‹ˆ๋“ค ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์‹ ๋….

์—๋ผ์ด ํ‰ค!
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๋ฌด์ƒ๊ธ‰์‹์„ ์‹œ์ž‘์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์†Œ๋“... ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ชจ๋Ÿด ํ—ค์ €๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ธฐ๋‹ˆ, ๋นจ๊ฐฑ์ด ์ •์ฑ…์ด๋‹ˆ, ์ง€๋ž„๋“ค ํ•˜๋”๋‹ˆ...

์ด์žฌ๋ช…, ๋ถ€๋™์‚ฐ ์‹œ์žฅ ๊ธฐํ•„์ฝ” ์ •์ƒํ™”ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ์ „์— ์ง€๋ž„ํ•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ์ž…๋„ ๋ปฅ๊ธ‹ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ!
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ๅš็‰ฉ้คจใซ่กŒใฃใฆใใŸใฎใงใ™ใŒใ€20ไปฃๅ‰ๅŠใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎใ€ใพใ ไป˜ใๅˆใฃใฆใฏใ„ใชใ„ใ‘ใฉใŠไบ’ใ„ๅฅฝๆ„ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใฎใ€ๆ•ฌ่ชžใงไผš่ฉฑใ™ใ‚‹็”ทๅฅณไบŒไบบ็ต„ใฎๅฎขใŒใŠใ‚Šใ€็”ทๆ€งใฎใปใ†ใŒไธ€็”Ÿๆ‡ธๅ‘ฝ่˜Š่“„ใ‚’่ชžใ‚‹ใจใ€ๅฅณๆ€งใฎใปใ†ใŒใกใ‚‡ใฃใจๅคง่ขˆ่ฃŸใ‚ใซ้ฉšใ„ใŸใ‚Šใ—ใฆใ„ใฆใ€ๆœฌๅฝ“ใฏใกใ‚‡ใฃใจไบ’ใ„ใซใ‚บใƒฌใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ ใ‘ใฉใ€ๅฅฝๆ„ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใŒๆ•…ใซไบ’ใ„ใซใ‚ˆใๆ€ใ‚ใ‚ŒใŸใใฃใฆใ„ใ„ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใซใชใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ€ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒฅใƒ‹ใ‚ฑใƒผใ‚ทใƒงใƒณใ‚’้–“่ฟ‘ใง่žใ‹ใ•ใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใ„ใ€ๆต็Ÿณใซใƒ‹ใƒใƒฃใƒ‹ใƒใƒฃไธๅฏ้ฟใงใ—ใŸ

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Before you get into it, the caveats are there in the post. You'll hear me critique the AI industry *a lot*, and those critiques haven't changed. I'm still concerned about effects on the environment, on skill decline, on the DDoS'ing of the internet, and especially on disempowerment *generally*. All that remains true.

This is going to be a somewhat niche post for people who are particularly interested in neurosymbolic computation, which includes me: the idea that neither LLMs nor constraint solvers are sufficient, that the right path for many things combines them.

@cwebberChristine Lemmer-Webber the only conversation I've ever had with someone who works on one of the "foundation models" (anthropic) that didn't leave me wanting to commit acts outside my morals and ethics, was with someone who thought the entire direction of more compute and more data was fundamentally flawed and what was necessary was something not dissimilar to what you're describing about Winter. In particular a family of kernels within the language model that enables it to interrogate its own training. He was clear that he didn't mean "intelligence" but instead simply that it was capable of producing cogent, real, explanations whether in natural language or not of it's behavior which could be used as part of a feedback loop to refine output and internal representations as well as give humans the opportunity to understand the nature of a response.

I found the post pretty interesting and share your concerns about LLMs.

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