What is Hackers' Pub?

Hackers' Pub is a place for software engineers to share their knowledge and experience with each other. It's also an ActivityPub-enabled social network, so you can follow your favorite hackers in the fediverse and get their latest posts in your feed.

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ℹ️👨‍💻 Sprint Day at PyCon UK 2025 👩‍💻ℹ️

At , the final day of the conference will be focused on sprints! They’re open to all attendees! ✨

We’ll be working on:
🌐 Django, Django Debug Toolbar, BeeWare
📊 pandas, NumPy, SciPy, SymPy, Spyder
🐍 CPython, PyO3
🖼️ Pillow
🌱 PyLadies, Black Python Devs, Render Engine

📖 More info: 2025.pyconuk.org/sprints/

@django
@beewareBeeWare Project
@pandas_devpandas
@numpy
@scipy
@Spyder
@pillow
@pyladies
@blackpythondevs

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Winter Storm Watch, Central Brooks Range, 2025-06-04 00:55 AKDT.

WHAT...Heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 5 to 11 inches possible.

WHERE...South of Toolik Lake including Atigun and Anaktuvuk Passes.

WHEN...From Thursday evening through late Friday night.

IMPACTS...Plan on difficult travel conditions.

ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Precipitation will begin as rain or a rain and snow mix Tuesday afternoon, then transition to all snow on Wednesday. The current trend is downward for snowfall, but it is still looking like the heaviest will be Thursday through Friday. Regardless of exact snowfall amounts which are a bit uncertain at the moment, this will likely make the Dalton Highway difficult to travel on this weekend.

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?zoneid=AKZ809


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We’ve extended the volunteer application deadline for EuroPython 2025 to 8 June!

If you’ve been thinking about joining us in Prague from July 14–20, there’s still time to apply.

🔗 Info: europython.eu/volunteers
📝 Apply: forms.gle/rSWsgnxS5gmXrrZ97

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For a "developer focused" analyst firm, I feel like this article is somewhat throwing developers under a bus:

redmonk.com/kholterhoff/2025/0

And not one mention - apart from within 3 links, hyperlinked from the single words within "(and some skepticism)" - of accessibility.

She even speaks of past experience of working with marketers when the devs were too busy, who "used Webflow to spin up a quick and dirty website" - exactly. Quick and dirty and not usable for everyone.

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Offenbar ist mit Tesla noch nicht genug gestraft. Amazon will auch was vom Wasser.

Und nein, mit 'Souveränität' hat es nichts zu tun, wenn einer von Trumps Buddys hier mehr Geld verdienen will.

Ort ist noch geheim: Internet, kriegen wir das raus?

Amazon will als Cloud-Anbieter 8 Milliarden Euro in Brandenburg investieren | rbb24
rbb24.de/wirtschaft/beitrag/20

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murderbot (TV show)

so it has watched the first few episodes of murderbot and it is really liking it so far , some context on their world building :

  • Security units (abbreviated to SecUnits) are robots based on humans with heavy augmentation
  • one of these augmentations is a "governor module" which appears to be the primary method for controlling the SecUnits: it penalizes the SecUnit for not following orders.

So here is a part of the opening scene :

I had devoted every spare second on this [minor] planet trying to hack my governor module, and now was a moment of truth: I just isolated an admin password and I was gonna use it to crack the final core encryption. Okay, patching the code... Holy shit... Holy shit, it worked!

like idk if its just a nerd but wouldn't this scene be much better if it was instead a vague description of a exploit chain ? ex. "I spent months finding little holes and connecting them, starting from a buffer overflow, getting arbitrary code execution, a privilege escalation, bypassing a signature check and I finally had enough to take control of the governor module."

like sure its longer and most entities won't know what it means , but like show a animation showing multiple layerd with small red holes and a line weaving between them going through holes and it will give the point across while sounding more impressive no ?

cause like what it understands its words as is the governor module has a backdoor . on a machine which is explicitly armed . yeag the attack surface isn't much for an outside attacker but still wtf .

like its really sad to it that they haven't put more work into their worldbuilding , the computer details are really underwhelming , more examples :

  • murderbot (main character) apparently has a large amount of access to the system of the habitat (all security cameras (some of which are positioned very much not like security cameras btw) , the media library)
  • in a scene where another character (also a cyborg but moreso on the lightly augmented human end) tried so access something related to murderbot (backups or logs don't remember , will edit once it finds the scene) and murderbot was able to disswade him by showing a security camera of other characters kissing

like the show seems nice yeag but aagh

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@oliverandrich Seniors are not born seniors, they grow form juniors. Maybe there is a world where companies get away with fewer juniors but I don't think that this will be a long term effect. We will build different software, maybe we will indeed build a bit less of it, but for me it's much more of a transition. In 5 years time a lot of software we used to build up to this point will no longer be needed. But something else will replace it, and that will need humans too.

The world where everything is just machines is not very likely. The existence of brands like Hermes, Porsche and others strongly suggests that there will always be a market on the top that is all about craft and prestige. That very market is what sets the direction also further down. It will set an expectations that humans are involved and whatever has no humans will be seen as cheap and without value. That will be the reality for engineering in the future and that will create a new place for juniors in companies.

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Umfrage an die SPD-Mitglieder: Gibt es irgendeine Schurkerei, bei der Ihr nicht mitmachen würdet?

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이재명 대통령, 재외투표서 66.4% 득표…21.4% 얻은 김문수 압도 송고2025-06-04 17:21 최종 득표율 49.42%보다 17%p 높아…민주당 후보 4번 모두 승리 민주당 세계한인민주회의 "李대통령, 높은 지지 감사하다고 전해" www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR2025...

이재명 대통령, 재외투표서 66.4% 득표…21.4% ...

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My kingdom to be able to strip units from a CSS Calc operation. Reliably.

Trying to simplify some typographic scales, when the base font is itself responsive in a clamp()... nope. I need the ratio of the ideal heading vs ideal base-font calculating first, and ratios need to be unit-less.

Calc won't return unitless results.

So I'm left with manual math to plug into a calc().

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Having now been sentenced to 30 months in prison for her part in Just Stop Oil's (prospective) Manchester Airport action, here's Indigo Rumbellow's a prison letter; she argues the judge's intent to make her sentence a deterrent to others is a testament to the power of non-violent protest (drawing on a long history of civil disobedience).

Will her call to (further) acton now be heeded, or can we find other ways to effect the crucial policy change(s)?


theguardian.com/commentisfree/

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이재명 대통령, 재외투표서 66.4% 득표…21.4% 얻은 김문수 압도 송고2025-06-04 17:21 최종 득표율 49.42%보다 17%p 높아…민주당 후보 4번 모두 승리 민주당 세계한인민주회의 "李대통령, 높은 지지 감사하다고 전해" www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR2025...

이재명 대통령, 재외투표서 66.4% 득표…21.4% ...

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그 외의 장관들은 하나같이 "나는 말렸다;;;" 로 일관하고 있고, 며칠뒤 국회에서 국무위원 전원 사과하랄 때 일단 고개숙여 사과도 하긴 했다. 다만 한덕수도 고개는 숙여주던 그 순간 유일하게 고개 빳빳하게 세우고 사과 거부한 자가 있는데, 그 자도 대선 나간다고 그만뒀다 (김문수)

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Why Bell Labs worked so well, and could innovate so much, while today’s innovation, in spite of the huge private funding, goes in hype-and-fizzle cycles that leave relatively little behind, is a question I’ve been asking myself a lot in the past years.

And I think that the author of this article has hit the nail on its head on most of the reasons - but he didn’t take the last step in identifying the root cause.

What Bell Labs achieved within a few decades is probably unprecedented in human history:

  • They employed folks like Nyquist and Shannon, who laid the foundations of modern information theory and electronic engineering while they were employees at Bell.

  • They discovered the first evidence of the black hole at the center of our galaxy in the 1930s while analyzing static noise on shortwave transmissions.

  • They developed in 1937 the first speech codec and the first speech synthesizer.

  • They developed the photovoltaic cell in the 1940, and the first solar cell in the 1950s.

  • They built the first transistor in 1947.

  • They built the first large-scale electronic computers (from Model I in 1939 to Model VI in 1949).

  • They employed Karnaugh in the 1950s, who worked on the Karnaugh maps that we still study in engineering while he was an employee at Bell.

  • They contributed in 1956 (together with AT&T and the British and Canadian telephone companies) to the first transatlantic communications cable.

  • They developed the first electronic musics program in 1957.

  • They employed Kernighan, Thompson and Ritchie, who created UNIX and the C programming language while they were Bell employees.

And then their rate of innovation suddenly fizzled out after the 1980s.

I often hear that Bell could do what they did because they had plenty of funding. But I don’t think that’s the main reason. The author rightly points out that Google, Microsoft and Apple have already made much more profit than Bell has ever seen in its entire history. Yet, despite being awash with money, none of them has been as impactful as Bell. Nowadays those companies don’t even innovate much besides providing you with a new version of Android, of Windows or the iPhone every now and then. And they jump on the next hype wagon (social media, AR/VR, Blockchain, AI…) just to deliver half-baked products that (especially in Google’s case) are abandoned as soon as the hype bubble bursts.

Let alone singlehandedly spear innovation that can revolutionize an entire industry, let alone make groundbreaking discoveries that engineers will still study a century later.

So what was Bell’s recipe that Google and Apple, despite having much more money and talented people, can’t replicate? And what killed that magic?

Well, first of all Bell and Kelly had an innate talent in spotting the “geekiest” among us. They would often recruit from pools of enthusiasts that had built their own home-made radio transmitters for fun, rather than recruiting from the top business schools, or among those who can solve some very abstract and very standardized HackerRank problems.

And they knew how to manage those people. According to Kelly’s golden rule:

How do you manage genius? You don’t

Bell specifically recruited people that had that strange urge of tinkering and solving big problems, they were given their lab and all the funding that they needed, and they could work in peace. Often it took years before Kelly asked them how their work was progressing.

Compare it to a Ph.D today who needs to struggle for funding, needs to produce papers that get accepted in conferences, regardless of their level of quality, and must spend much more time on paperwork than on actual research.

Or to an engineer in a big tech company that has to provide daily updates about their progress, has to survive the next round of layoffs, has to go through endless loops of compliance, permissions and corporate bureaucracy in order to get anything done, has their performance evaluated every 3 months, and doesn’t even have control on what gets shipped - that control has been taken away from engineers and given to PMs and MBA folks.

Compare that way of working with today’s backlogs, metrics, micromanaging and struggle for a dignified salary or a stable job.

We can’t have the new Nyquist, Shannon or Ritchie today simply because, in science and engineering, we’ve moved all the controls away from the passionate technical folks that care about the long-term impact of their work, and handed them to greedy business folks who only care about short-term returns for their investors.

So we ended up with a culture that feels like talent must be managed, even micromanaged, otherwise talented people will start slacking off and spending their days on TikTok.

But, as Kelly eloquently put it:

“What stops a gifted mind from just slacking off?” is the wrong question to ask. The right question is, “Why would you expect information theory from someone who needs a babysitter?”

Or, as Peter Higgs (the Higgs boson guy) put it:

It’s difficult to imagine how I would ever have enough peace and quiet in the present sort of climate to do what I did in 1964… Today I wouldn’t get an academic job. It’s as simple as that. I don’t think I would be regarded as productive enough.

Or, as Shannon himself put it:

I’ve always pursued my interests without much regard for final value or value to the world. I’ve spent lots of time on totally useless things.

So basically the most brilliant minds of the 20th century would be considered lazy slackers today and be put on a PIP because they don’t deliver enough code or write enough papers.

So the article is spot on in identifying why Bell could invent, within a few years, all it did, while Apple, despite having much more money, hasn’t really done anything new in the past decade. MBAs, deadlines, pseudo-objective metrics and short-termism killed scientific inquiry and engineering ingenuity.

But the author doesn’t go one step further and identify the root cause.

It correctly spots the business and organizational issues that exist in managing talent today, but it doesn’t go deeper into their economic roots.

You see, MBA graduates and CEOs didn’t destroy the spirit of scientific and engineering ingenuity spurred by the Industrial Revolution just because they’re evil. I mean, there’s a higher chance for someone who has climbed the whole corporate ladder to be a sociopath than there is for someone you randomly picked from the street, but not to the point where they would willingly tame and screw the most talented minds of their generation, and squeeze them into a Jira board or a metric that looks at the number of commits, out of pure sadism.

They did so because the financial incentives have drastically changed from the times of Bells Labs.

The Bells Labs were basically publicly funded. AT&T operated the telephone lines in the US, paid by everyone who used telephones, and they reinvested a 1% tax into R&D (the Bells Labs). And nobody expected a single dime of profits to come out from the Bells Labs.

And btw, R&D was real R&D with no strings attached at the time. In theory also my employer does R&D today - but we just ended up treating whatever narrow iterative feature requested by whatever random PM as “research and development”. It’s not like scientists have much freedom in what to research or engineers have much freedom in what to develop. R&D programs have mostly just become a way for large businesses to squeeze more money out of taxpayers, put it in their pockets, and not feel any moral obligation of contributing to anything other than their shareholders’ accounts.

And at the time the idea of people paying taxes, so talented people in their country could focus on inventing the computer, the Internet or putting someone on the moon, without the pressure of VCs asking for their dividends, or PMs asking them to migrate everything to another cloud infrastructure by next week, or to a new shiny framework that they’ve just heard in a conference, wasn’t seen as a socialist dystopia. It was before the neoliberal sociopaths of the Chicago school screwed up everything.

The America that invested into the Bell Labs and into the Apollo project was very different from today’s America. It knew that it was the government’s job to foster innovation and to create an environment where genuinely smart people could do great things without external pressure. That America hadn’t yet been infected by the perverse idea that the government should always be small, that it’s not the government’s job to make people’s lives better, and that it was the job of privately funded ventures seeking short-term returns to fund moonshots.

And, since nobody was expecting a dime back from Bell, nobody would put deadlines on talented people, nobody hired unqualified and arrogant business specialists to micromanage them, nobody would put them on a performance improvement plan if they were often late at their daily standups or didn’t commit enough lines of code in the previous quarter. So they had time to focus on how to solve some of the most complex problems that humans ever faced.

So they could invent the transistor, the programming infrastructure still used to this day, and lay the foundations of what engineers study today.

The most brilliant minds of our age don’t have this luxury. So they can’t revolutionarize our world like those in the 20th century did.

Somebody else sets their priorities and their deadlines.

They can’t think of moonshots because they’re forced to work on the next mobile app riding the next wave of hype that their investors want to release to market so they can get even richer.

They have to worry about companies trying to replace them with AI bots and business managers wanting to release products themselves by “vibe coding”, just to ask those smart people to clean up the mess they’ve done, just like babies who are incapable of cleaning up the food they’ve spilled on the floor.

They are seen as a cost, not as a resource. Kelly used to call himself a “patron” rather than a “manager”, and he trusted his employees, while today’s managers and investors mostly see their engineering resources as squishy blobs of flesh standing between their ambitious ideas and their money, and they can’t wait to replace them with robots that just fullfill all of their wishes.

Tech has become all about monetization nowadays and nothing about ingenuity.

As a result, there are way more brilliant minds (and way more money) in our age going towards solving the “convince people to click on this link” problem rather than solving the climate problem, for example.

Then of course they can’t invent the next transistor, or bring the next breakthrough in information theory.

Then of course all you get, after one year of the most brilliant minds of our generation working at the richest company that has ever existed, is just a new iPhone.

https://links.fabiomanganiello.com/share/683ee70d0409e6.66273547

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